Conservatives, this is what poverty looks like.

People who refuse to work are sucking the welfare budgets. People like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5tqH7UrzOw

I grew up in a family of 8 and we had no welfare, no food stamps. We were very poor, but we made it and so did millions of others for hundreds of years before welfare. We didn't complain like they do today. People just keep asking for more and more. We just can't seem to give enough to satisfy Liberals.

 

I haven't posted you weren't disabled. What I posted was your mom intentionally sandbagged to abuse the system. I'm merely parroting what YOU typed so perhaps it's yourself you're a little disappointed in.

And SPARE me the "moral high ground" before is turns into moral quicksand and I'm all out of life preservers.

 

If I am disabled, which I am, and which several doctors since the time I was born, and in fact prior to my birth, have attested to, then I am entitled to the benefits afforded disabled individuals. However, I would have been denied them due to no fault of my own. Ensuring that I could get the medical care I needed is a mother's duty. It's an acknowledged flaw in the welfare system that you obviously don't understand.

And don't try to say you didn't say stuff you did, dig yourself a deeper hole.

 

With all due respect, your family brought you here, and they should bear a huge burden. It's odd that you guys don't mind bankrupting others, but your families should not suffer the same fate.

I remember now why I thought you were a woman, you keep mentioning your boyfriend.

 

My profile says "male". I'm in a same-sex relationship.

When medical bills are defrayed across 100 million taxpayers, the cost calculates out to hundredths if not thousandths of a penny per taxpayer per patient on Medicaid. I'm not going to bother explaining how Medicaid and Medicare work to you.

 

Contentedness and traditionalism. There is a yearning in western culture to do better then your parents rather then walk in their shoes which is different then you find in a lot of eastern cultures. They are changing of course, but that is a cultural flaw when it comes to establishing a modern society.

 

I have no problem with welfare tot he truly disabled. If our tax burdens allowed us to get past just scraping by, wouldn't you guys give more? No doubt I would get a new TV at some point. For sure. But I would definitely give it to people suffering from real disabilities and injuries, especially since birth. We should all have an insurance policy on our heads at the time of birth, and only government or charity can really make that possible. It could have been you.

Now what we need to do next is get rid of all the laws that make this a lifetime subsidy for those who are able minded or bodied:

Remove the penalty for earning over a certain amount. It should be phased slowly out so work pays, and the benefits needed aren't cut off.

Goodby ADA discrimination causes of action. Employers are scared to hire disabled people because they dont want to let them go if they cant do the job and get sued. It shows in the stats even if they dont say it out loud, employment among the disabled tanked after the well meaning ADA was passed. Scrap those portions of it, leave the rest. The access issues should not give rise to a cause of action either, except by a regulatory body, but they should stay, they are a market externality.

Tax credits for all health payments made

 

There aren't too many counties on this planet that haven't started 'establishing a modern society', even Bhutan. Ergo, their cultures aren't flawed.

 

I'm glad you didn't try explaining because you are full of crap: Total Medicaid spending 2013 $415B http://kff.org/medicaid/state-indicator/total-medicaid-spending/

= $4000 per taxpayer. Then you try and say 'per Medicaid patient' to dilute the effect. The problem is that we taxpayers don't give a damn how many of you there are, we have to go to work to pay that $4000

 

When making accusations, it's best to provide proof of your claim. YOU'RE the one who dug a hole victim. Go read your OP again.

 

Their cultures are evolving.

 

Then why not quote me those posts?

 

Compassion what a filthy word huh. I'll bet eugenics is what you think should have been implemented. So are you a Nazi or just really mean.

Keep in mind that my taxes also were used to help this family and I personally am glad that I could help, not all of us are Mod Edit ~ Rule 9/Circumventing profanity filter

 

Don't lecture ME on compassion. I've dedicated my life to the mentally ill as a psych RN.

All you've done is volunteer other people's earnings to support your phony morality.

 

No I willingly volunteered my own earnings and am glad to have had the opportunity to help someone less fortunate than myself. You'd have them starve to death in the gutter, or be euthanized with your brand of morality.

 

Oh.... you willingly volunteered your own earnings before your were FORCED to pay taxes.....We have "charity" for those less fortunate than ourselves.

No, I don't shirk my responsibility to my fellow man onto some faceless government bureaucracy like you do. Do you get on your knees and worship the almighty federal government too?

 

I willingly give to charities when I can and I'm not stupid enough to think the roads will pay for and fix themselves, I'm also not stupid enough to think that poor folks are poor because they want to be. I'm also not stupid enough to think that there are enough charities to take care of all those in need.

Hate to break this to you but you support "some faceless government bureaucracy" the same as me, the only difference is I'm glade to help those less fortunate as myself... Mod Edit ~ Rule 3/Baiting

 

That's nice. How much to you pay per year?

 

As to the OP's original story beginning this thread: It seems that your mother chose to make child rearing her career as we all know that is a full time job in itself. And it seems as though she was successful as you are alive and well. Problem is, the choice she made was not financially supportable which left that responsibility to someone else. Forced it upon them, actually. Bad career choice. You have some people to thank for your and your mothers journey, not the right to expect it.

 

You mean you pay taxes to promote the GENERAL WELFARE?

No, they're obviously a victim of [insert excuse here].

Well of course not with the federal government collecting taxes and wasting them on inefficiency and government bureaucracy.

Hey? Guess what else your taxes pay for? Killing, torturing an maiming hundreds of thousands of humans across the globe. THAT effort will get a lot more of your tax dollar before it ever trickles down to "the needy".

Well no.... I'd have them actually acccept responsibility for themselves and the children they bring into the world OR I'd allow Americans to keep more of their earnings to spend on REAL charity DUH.

 

Well, a few things I notice about your story, but first I just want to say thanks for being that open about your personal life (I assume honesty on the part of posters unless I have reason to doubt). I'm sure you've gotten some shallow flak. So, here are my pointers:

1. I notice there's no mention of a father. If you've heard any conservative talk about poverty, you've heard them talk about the problem of single mothers. Its a problem for a plethora of reasons. Its an inherent problem that the child is fatherless (the way your story was told, that's what it sounds like). But there's also a link between single mothers and poverty, and their kids (vs kids of married couples) have something like 3x greater chances of living in poverty as adults. So that *is* a big thing.
2. A lot of the issues are caused by corrupt government programs that conservatives have been criticizing before Reagan. Its just wrong that any welfare program should ever discourage a productful living. This IS NOT a story that proves that we need to raise the minimum wage, it proves that we need welfare reform. Didn't you say that your mother turned down better jobs and advancement so she could keep medicare? That's a problem with our system, and conservatives have been looking to fix it since basically its inception.
3. Its illegal for her to be fired for being pregnant. If you stop and think about it it makes sense for a budiness not to want to hire a pregnant woman, but its still illegal to FIRE someone because they're pregnant. Its too BSD your mother didn't seek legal counsel. If she was genuinely fired just because she was pregnant, its actually usually quite easy to sue for benefits due, the job, lost wages, AND legal fees (and most lawyers will take this kind of case and only charge if they win). Its a sad thing that ablotnof people think they can only sue if they've got loads of cash in the bank. That's so far from the truth.

So it'd an unfortunate case, but in the first place a father should have been there, in the second place your mother should have sued and sued successfully (if its as clear cut as you say), in the third place the government system screwed her over.

 

in cases like yours we need to support the parents , I may have missed it but you said nothing about your father?

 

basically, it's an OP full of excuses why their life didn't turn out like they pictured it when they were a child (because apparently, you have to prepare for a better life, not just wish for a better life) and a bunch of bleeding hearts all blaming someone richer than they are, for all the problems. lol

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if someone is handicapped we need to assit them , sure they should work and get a better job

 

The right only has a problem with income transfers and the coercive use of force of the State, if the least wealthy may be receive any benefit.