Conservatives, this is what poverty looks like.

So St. Patrick supported the idea of unprotected sex?

 

Between you and Frankie, you're about to exceed my tolerance level for stupid comments.

St. Patrick's Day in the United States tends to be celebrated with plenty of beer. Beer has a tendency to lead to uninformed decisions. I don't know what the circumstances behind my birth are, but that is a somewhat plausible explanation given the area wherein I live.

 

damn good money would have had her in the lower middle class in 5 years? not getting married in order to get assistance? your dad was a hell of a guy

 

Let me explain it to you, since you obviously are incapable of reading the posts I had made in this thread. In Wisconsin, had my parents been together, I would have been deemed ineligible for Medicaid. Private insurance that would have covered the potential brain surgery would have been prohibitively expensive.

Oh and let's not forget, without the brain surgery, I would have died.


Conservatives: They'll care about a fetus until the second it takes a breath and then they demand it not be their problem!

 

I'm in favor of abortion, so I ask, why didn't your mom get one?

Also, don't simultaneously claim your mom made damn good money, then be upset she lost her job because had she kept her job you would have been ineligible for Medicaid.

 

My mom didn't get one because both pairs of my grandparents are devout Catholics and it would have ostracized my parents from their families.

Ever heard of a catch-22? That's exactly what she was in, a no-win situation.

I'm not upset that she lost her job, it was actually a blessing in disguise, but it did make things difficult for her, being in her third trimester and being without any income of her own. I'm pissed that they did it the way they did, which was, as everyone has pointed out, entirely illegal.

 

So your parents had irresponsible sex and everyone else should pay for their mistakes.

Anything else you were attempting to get across with your thread?

 

It's ok. You've lost since surpassed my tolerance level of whiny liberal apologetics.

I knew what you were getting at. What I don't understand is how you can't see the irresponsibility of your parent's behavior, regardless of what day it was. I have managed to muddle my way through 46 St. Patrick's Days thus far, and have not accidentally created a child in the process.

That said: ish happens, and ish works out. There but for the Grace of God go me and thee, and there is no reason to turn your life story into a plea for more Government.

 

then your grandparents should have supported you mother, what the hell is wrong with them?

 

I get it, you're of the same cloth as the folks who said certain life was unworthy of life. Cheery thought from a nurse.

At the time, public assistance was the ONLY guaranteed way to make sure that I had access to the care I needed.

Like I said, I am not certain of the circumstances behind my conception, therefore it is wholly improper for you, someone who does NOT know myself or my parents personally, to comment on the responsibility or irresponsibility of their actions. I have pointed out what I would have said to her before. I don't even know if it WAS St. Patrick's Day or not.

It's called Catholicism. In the Catholic faith, abortions are a sin.

 

PT, I know abortions are a sin, but I am asking why they didn't help you and you mother financially? certainly that would have been the decent Catholic thing to do

 

My paternal grandparents were fighting their own health issues at the time. My maternal grandparents did help early on, but there was a falling out soon after I was born.

By the way, thanks for using the right way to shorten my screenname.

 

But they also are essentially furnished free or greatly reduced room and board on campus, which generally serves to boost that up more than a little. And of course I'm talking about families.

 

I'm not talking families, the original post said everyone struggles, including singles.

 

that's a shame, your mom's support failed her. There are many good Christians who walk the walk, but far too many won't when the chips are down. Your father and grandparents all should have rallied in support if they were insisting on carrying to term. I don't have a problem with your public assistance, it wasn't your fault, but I would like to have seen the government get more aggressive with your father.

We have the exact opposite in my wife's side, family opposed her brother having kids with a woman that doctors said could not have healthy babies. They did it anyway, and one child now has severe health problems. Doctors told them to abort, family would have supported, she has now cost taxpayers hundreds of thousands in medicaid. The guy is a part time mechanic, she is a stay at home with 4 kids. Nobody approves, they just don't care and I am really disgusted. They should have been cut off long ago.

 

Thank you for being honest. Most liberals will not admit to how the welfare state is destructive to families, especially in minority communities.

 

I get that you like making arguments up for other people when you can't even support your own ridiculous arguments.

So in other words, instead of doing everything she could to provide for her responsibility, she took the easy/guaranteed route and sandbagged shirking her responsibility onto the state AKA others who actually TOOK responsibility for their lives.

And like a good role model I bet you've been abusing the system like you were taught.

 

With all due respect, I need to point two things out here:

1) While all of that is unfortunate, none of that is truly poverty. Real poverty doesn't even exist in America. Real poverty doesn't have things like SSI or Medicaid at all. This is poverty:









We're so spoiled in the west that we have a twisted definition of poor. And it's utterly sickening when you stop to consider the conditions that other people around the world are still living in today.


2) I can't help but notice your father is not mentioned at all here. Where is he in this picture? Clearly, two incomes would have made this situation much easier, yes?

 

I couldn't agree more. I have seen more poverty to last a dozen lifetimes.

 

All a result of flawed culture and economic politics by the way.


Screw any of the posters in this thread that think kids with cerebral palsy or Down's syndrome or a host of other issues should be aborted to save money. These guys shouldn't get welfare:




This girl should:



I think it is pretty clear she would rather be alive then aborted. Look at that smile. How can you deny we all have an obligation to care for her because through no fault of our own we all had a chance of enduring that disability?

Shameful stuff people, get your acts together.

 

I respectfully disagree with half of what you say. Caring for all people who can smile is destroying social welfare budgets.

 

In the days before the government became the charitable giver in chief people used to help each other through times like that. Mutual aid societies still exist today in other countries and they work very well.

I used to give to charity and help people out but my tax burden is so high now that I can barely take care of my own family.

 

They are the ones who should be receiving welfare. Who do you want it to go to? The able
Bodied? Get a job.

 

Flawed culture meaning?

 

Sorry for the lengthy delay in posting. Between a sick boyfriend, finally getting a reprieve from writer's block, and a Super Bowl party today, I haven't had much time to reply here.

I have pointed that out in other replies.

I said nothing you haven't already basically insinuated yourself. I had to fight the system for four years to just be able to get a single CT scan to make sure my shunt was still working. You must not be familiar with the workings of hydrocephalus. That multiple doctors and multiple people within the SSA have said that yes, I fit the definition of "disabled" proves that you are talking out your ass and beyond your league. You are a nurse, not anyone who has actual experience with actual disabled people. For all your slandering toward me, I wonder how your patients' families think of you. You've shown a severe disdain for people who could very well be your own patients, and I find your words here bordering on unethical behavior. I will not let some nurse who probably looks at his patients with disgust and probably jokes about them behind their backs tell me I am not disabled when they have never even met me.



The black area in the center of the image is cerebrospinal fluid. The gray matter on the border is the brain. That is a severe case, and what every person with hydrocephalus fears. That is what I was at risk for without regular CT scanning. Prior to Obamacare, insurance companies would not cover me without exorbitant premiums.

It's not the welfare state, it was the income requirement within the MA law that, to my knowledge, still existed as of 2010. But for that income requirement, my mom would not have even needed the SSI cash benefit, since she would have been able to work her way back into a position within the workforce that would have seen her making plenty of money.

With all due respect, you don't know just how much it costs to do a single pediatric shunt-placement surgery, let alone a pediatric shunt replacement, shunt revision, pediatric eye surgeries, pediatric leg surgeries, pediatric physical therapy, etc, etc. I would imagine that within 3 years, my medical bills would have been beyond $750K. As a safe guesstimate, that was probably ten times my entire immediate family's income per year for the first three years of my life. You aren't asking for ONE person to go bankrupt, but an entire FAMILY.