Settlements liable to turn Israel into an apartheid state

And it is a democratic process unlike the sham point you made whereby the Islamic and Arabic nations peoples had no choice whereas those in Israel do. Your point is addressed and it fails miserably.

 

When Israel is singled out, insulted, lied about, subjected to a different set of standards and blamed for all the world's (or at the very least region's) ills in the same manner that Jews have been in the last 2,000 years, the accusations of anti-semitism are more than appropriate.


Well, if you prefer we can call it neo-antisemitism - same old hatred of the Jews masquerading as the hatred of Israel.

 

How are non-Muslim minorities treated in Islamic Law-ruled countries as opposed to how non-Jews are treated in Israel?

 

Ah, you mean my support for international law and a free Palestine. No, I'll continue with that, thank you.

 

I don't think that you can generalise across the board.

 

There is nothing illegal about using the democratic process to make the identity of Israel Jewish moon. Do some research on the subject please.

 

The Palestinians have not been a factor for a very long time. The threat of some Palestinian surge is what provides part of Israel's legitmacy, but if people understood what Israel is and how absolutely suicidal that is to anyone other than another nuclear-nation, it would go a ways into clearing up the actual situation (not that I know exactly what that is, anyway).

Israel, of course, is fine with this. It is granted near diplomatic immunity from it's actions as the US consistently uses it's veto power against any charges brought against them on the international stage. It's get's poweful foreign aid and is in a position where it's nation is the insurance of the continued hegemony of the worlds super-power. Israel could- and does- shoot kids down in the street and no action will be brought against it because it's not only the US, but Europe as a whole that relies on this status of affairs.

It's the same reason why we don't embargo or boycott China for it's exceedingly gross extortion of it's own citizens to create the worlds largest industrial nation. We and many other nations profit too much from it. I'm sure the complexity of the international tangle is far more complicated, though...

For instance, even though I consider it wrong, if the US didn't rush to sieze control of the ME oil, and allowed it to fall into the autonomy of the people whose land it resides in, than our society suffers. We because we are too reliant on a dominant and profitable share and if they were to simply re-allocate this situation to provide a mch fairer distribution of oil to people around the world, and a much fairer distribution of the returns to not just oil-fat regimes, than this actually benevolent action would be expressly counter to US interests and because people in the US couldn't drive as often as they'd like, most would cry for war. Of course, the propaganda would make it seem like Satan himself is trying to devour our children, but- in my opinion- the honest interpretation of world events is distubingly deep webs of cynical self-interest. And the difference between the winners and the losers is power.

 

If you detect any rule-breaking then report it. Racism and ' antisemitism ' are banned under Rule 7.

 

I think that you'd best do some yourself.

 

LOL. That's easy. It's because Israel's innocence is always being projected by all media and governments. They get their version of events promoted everywhere- from the Church to the halls of government. If not for independent criticism, there would be no criticism. They are even lobbying for it to be illegal to discredit Israel in any way, or to try an set up something that makes a person criticizing Israel a social pariah. The rather liberal smear of "anti-Semite" works wonders for them. Whenever someone is convicted, if they ever want to be anything again, they literally cow-tow with public apologies. This creates the situation that we have today, where people of note who have things to lose- like politicans or business owners- will not dare criticize Israel. It leads to self-censorship.

In Israel, it is illegal to do this. There survival has, for a long time, depended on the image that they are the besieged victims of malignant Arabs. In a sense, they were, but the reasons are what has gotten distorted. But...in modern times...Israel no loner needs to worry about being uprooted. Not by anyone of than another nuclear power since, they themselves, are a nuclear power.

To put it into context, when the Indians attacked the settlers in America. Were they right or wrong. Just looking at it from there, you might think the Indians just as guilty as the American's until you follow the trail back in time and provide context. It is the same with Israel. I often marvel at how similar the two nations are in terms of the conditions of their formation, and the things they do to legitimize their progression in alien lands.

 

so when is stoning gays to death international law? when is charging a women with adultery when she gets raped international law? when is putting people in jail for the offence of being the wrong religion international law?

when Muslim countries start abiding by basic human rights then we can discuss Israel and international law until then you have no argument

 

Wow. From what you are saying it seems that vilification of Israel is only found on the threads here on this forum. Incredible.

 

The UN's recognition of the State of Israel, is international law and legally binding.

 

I've done my homework as I'm not the one inferring that holding referendums or going through the legal process to do something is illegal moon, you are.

 

The Syrian Arab Republic is less than 75% Arab.

does their use of the term "Arab Republic" trouble you?

 

Do tell. I await the time where America hands back it's own land to it's rightful owners and restores justice to the historically persecuted.

Of course, there is also the problem that Arab's have a very small part to play in the millenia's long persecution. For the most part the Jewish people were treated far, far, far better in the Middle East. It was in Europe that they were hacked up and tossed around one corner to the next. It was Europeans who committed the holocasut. During the crusades, it was Europeans who butchered Jews alongside Arabs in their conquests of the Levant. Before them, the Roman's. And yet...just like the Holocaust...somehow the Arabs bare the brunt of the blame for historic crimes against Jews.

Even so...this does not provide one a shield from scrutiny.

 

Doubt it but it sure blows a hole in her excuse for singling out Israel ad nausium.

 

On the contrary, my foremost concern is with the Zionists' illegal occupation of Palestine . When their crimes have been addressed I'll be glad to assist you with any injustices you might find elsewhere.

 

' ad nausium ' ?

The Jewish and Arab Republic of Israel sounds just fine to me. No holes here.

 

why not The Jewish Republic of Israel?

you're ok with the Syrian Arab Republic, right?

 

What other prminent media source, politician, or business owner does this?

 

The arabs don't bare the brunt of the blame, no one is blaming them for the Holocaust. Butt that was still jewish land after all and the movement to reclaim it started long before WWII. Nevertheless the arabs own 99.8% of the middle east, Israel sits on whopping 0.2%, the Arabs expelled a million jews from their countries and they were not even zionists...Guess what, these jews need a place to call home too. I don't quite see how arabs can complain about injustice.

That being said, all countries were created by wars and conquest, there is not a square inch of land on the planet that had not changed hands a hundred times in the last 1,000 years or so...
Yet you are actually singling out, attacking, deligitimizing the only state on the planet which was created legally, by a UN decision, in other words by the will of the people of the planet. This is exactly the scenario of neo-antisemitism I was talking about in my previous post.

 

You take care of any perceived irregular nomenclature in Syria- I'll concentrate on apartheid and fascism in Israel.

 

sounds like a double-standard.

 

Not at all. Concentration upon one area achieves maximum successes. Let me know how your Syria thing goes.