Pennsylvania gay marriage ban struck down-

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  1. Flintc

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    You may be right. Everyone can see he's dodging, but whether he's dodging us or dodging himself is a different question.
     
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    And if it isnt strawmen, its outright fabrications of quotes. Show us ANYWHERE that I made such a claim. Biological parents are the only people obligated by the birth of a child. ANYONE else obligated has voluntarily accepted that obligation. Adoptions, artificial insemination agreements etc.
     
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    Hey dixon, what are your thoughts on married same-sex couples raising adopted children? Do you think they have the capacity to be as good as a child's Biological parents? (For the sake of argument let's say the child's Biological parents are dead so they would not be available to raise the child/children.)

    Will we get a straight answer? Let's find out!
     
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    So how do babies end up in trash cans, dixon? What happens to this "obligation"???
     
  5. Flintc

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    Everyone is responding to their best understanding of what you've said. So now the discussion has shifted to whether you are confused or being deliberately confusing. Your arguments are NOT consistent.

    So the government would "prefer" that people not steal. That's the most appropriate word you can find?

    Sigh. The studies comparing two biological parents with two same-sex parents (whether or not one is biological) COULD NOT FIND ANY DIFFERENCE according to all these factors. Do you know what "no difference" means? If two things are the same, and you continue insisting that one is better anyway, what is anyone supposed to think?
     
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    He sees the trap. If he says "No"...the next question will be heterosexual couples who adopt.

    Then he has to explain how "it's different"...since in NEITHER case are the biological parents involved.

    Oooooh, this'll be good. :)
     
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    Multiple people have now pointed out that biological parents do not have that obligation. You will have to find a new excuse.
     
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    That's ONE. How many out of all the times you've talked about "BIOLOGICAL parents"?
     
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    Dont be silly, you all fabricate quotes and craft strawmen, all to avoid addressing what Ive said
     
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    Most people have sufficient intelligence to understand that when I say that "children" with their biological parents do better than children who are not, that I am referring to all children collectively and not referring to the kid with crack addicted married parents living in the shelter. Ill try to be even more specific in the future for any of the morons.
     
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    Ah, a wonderful example of confused thinking, whether deliberate or not. The phrase "all other children" (not the average child, but ALL children) is in all caps. Then we have the tacked on "on average". Like saying "black is a darker color than ALL OTHER COLORS on average."

    Neat trick, saying ALL and then saying "average" in the same sentence, when the two are mutually exclusive, and then claiming you didn't say whichever one someone reads as your intention.
     
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    Actually they do. Multiple morons claiming that they do not doesnt alter that reality.
     
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    You hear that Flint? Better stop with all that strawman building of yours. :roll:

    Oh brother...
     
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    Everyone here is trying as hard as we can to understand and respond to what you're saying. Clearly, we are all getting frustrated when every response is to something you subsequently say you never said! When EVERYONE ELSE is misunderstanding you the same way, maybe the problem isn't with them, eh?
     
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    You were asked about babies thrown into dumpsters, where's the obligation? You ignored it. You were asked about giving kids up for adoption. You ignored it. The number and variety of ways that biological parents FAIL to accept that obligation is sadly large. Pretending none of it happens (either legally or effectively) is what the moron does.
     
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    repeatedly refuted.
     
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    repeatedly refuted.
     
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    I think its unconstitutional discrimination because they have limited it to gay couples of the "same sex"
     
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    except they don't
     
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    No, you are merely fond of repeatedly claiming that it has been refuted. Lesbian couple having a child with an artificial insemination agreement refutes nothing. Birth of the child didnt obligate them, it was the agreement that did so.
     
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    Why are many people misrepresenting your position?
     
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    Because they always use a misrepresentation of an argument they can easily knock down. They don't want to deal with the real arguments being made.
     
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    Unless they are married.

    And then they are both legally and morally obligated.

    Which is just another argument for gay marriage.
     
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    How cute, Sammy cumming to Dickson's rescue :clapping::clapping::clapping:
     
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