Did Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua teach the same things as Rabbi Nachman of Breslov?

I thank you for expressing your opinion John! Disagreement livens up the discussion much as conflict does a film??!!

 

I'd rather be in agreement with everyone, but some people make bad attempts at speaking with authority on things they don't know anything about.


It gets frustrating having to correct people, especially on things you've already corrected them on. I don't like conflict, but I despise liars.

 

It is interesting that discussions among believers get a lot of ideas on the table, and have educational value as comments are made and scripture is presented.
This is the way it was to be, that through commentary, learning and insights take place amongst us.

The rabbi know this, and their whole tradition of intercourse within their ranks has developed what they call the Oral Language, i.e.; Oral Torah.


Mat 18:20
For where two or three are gathered together in my name (Truth: [John 14:6]), there am I, (Truth), in the midst of them.


In regard to the Higher Self, I see this as the "real you."
At birth, our Conscious mind is like a blank blackboard.
As we experience life, were write things down on that blackboard, and build up a whole concept of that environment that embraces and interacts with us, including all the things we have taught ourselves o be people in our life.

But behind the scenes of the Consciousness is the real you, operating the body functions of your metabolism, governing your growth and development, founding your emotiuonal life, and sending you instinctual direstions to advise your behavioral responses.
This is the Unconscious mind which has been born again into the world of the living from which it departed withthe death of the previous body carrying it into a former world.

To get a sense of this part of you, and to contemplate factual empirical evidence that what I am saying is true, I recommend the recent publication of Subliminal.

It is an interesting and intriquing read, indeed:


Subliminal: How Your Unconscious Mind Rules Your Behavior

Leonard Mlodinow, the best-selling author of The Drunkard’s Walk and coauthor of The Grand Design (with Stephen Hawking), gives us a startling and eye-opening examination of how the unconscious mind shapes our experience of the world and how, for instance, we often misperceive our relationships with family, friends, and business associates, misunderstand the reasons for our investment decisions, and misremember important events.

 

How would you know? You haven't read it.

 

It may be some consolation John to know that about six months ago I accidentally ran into some of my writings from five years ago and I just shook my head at how uninformed I was back then on the topic that I was getting into. These discussions really do help us to learn....but often not so quickly that we can go back to the person who got us onto a new line of thought and clearly admit to them that their writings had truly had an impact on our approach to life or at least some aspect of what is happening on the earth!!!!

 

I was taking a look at the sayings of Rabbi Nachman again this morning!

Wow!!!!

Sayings from Rabbi Nachman of Breslov:
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Nachman_of_Breslov

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"Philosophies and intellectual wisdoms are not needed at all. Only pure and simple faith. Because too much sophistication can greatly damage a person." (Rabbi Nachman of Breslov)

Back in 2001 a gifted friend of my wife from Quito, Ecuador was praying for me. She saw me surrounded by books and books and more books!

I am one of the most confused people you will ever meet in your life because I can't come up with a simple answer to any question, no matter how simple!

I always over complicate every question that I face. I am like a blind man who needs to be taken by the hand and guided!!!!!???

I had bleeding ulcers when I was four years old and juvenile rheumatoid arthritis when I was 14. I was forced to read and read and read and read and watch TV because I was in too much pain to do much of anything else.

All of that does have some value....but I am one of the most confused people that you will ever meet in your life!!!!!????

 

Here is a Facebook page note that I just wrote regarding Rabbi Nachman:


https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rabbi-Nachman-of-Breslov/245197112181070?id=245197112181070&sk=notes

I'm a Gentile who feels that Rabbi Nachman's teachings can unite Jews, Christians and Moslems?!

Dennis Tate: Three years ago I had not read any of the specific teachings of Rabbi Nachman of Breslov. At this time when I write about him to an audience of New Age thinkers I often refer to him as "The Jewish Edgar Cayce." I hope that this is not offensive but this gets the idea across very quickly to people who are studying paranormal phenomena and questioning what life is really all about.


I am a Gentile who was taught to attempt to not work on the Jewish Sabbath and on the annual Holy Days and even fast on Yom Kippur since I was a teenager back in the '70's!

In 1989 or 1990 I began to research near death experience accounts and was thrown into a serious philosophical crisis because I had been a believer in the "soul sleep" theory. Once I read a number of negative NDE accounts I began to wonder if my religion Christianity was one of the worst religions...after all.....if "many are called and few are chosen".....and if there really is some sort of higher dimensional Auschwitz sort of environment that apparently millions of souls end up going into.....then how in the world could the Messiah settle for a paradigm in which a relatively small segment of people end up "saved" and go on to heaven??????!!!!!

I personally am a firm believer in "Universal Salvation," the idea that the G-d of Abraham has a plan to work out a way to bring all of us back to a vibrant relationship with our Creator!

At this time I have concluded the resurrection of Ezekiel chapter 37 is not a one time event. Time is not a straight line as we tend to limit it to being but instead time branches like a menorah.....or like the limbs or roots of a tree.

Any moment in the past has been recorded by HaShem/The G-d of Abraham and apparently the entire earth along with all life on it can be replicated exactly....and then a new branch of time can be spun off in which people get to know the G-d of Abraham and the Shekina Glory of G-d in ways that they had not known during that first branch of time.

Rabbi Nachman really grabbed my attention by his vow to go after souls who will become determined to improve and begin to walk toward G-d!!


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"In April 1810, Rebbe Nachman called two of his closest disciples, Rabbi Aharon of Breslov and Rabbi Naftali of Nemirov, to act as witnesses for an unprecedented vow:
"If someone comes to my grave, gives a coin to charity, and says these ten Psalms [the Tikkun HaKlali], I will pull him out from the depths of Gehinnom!".[16] "It makes no difference what he did until that day, but from that day on, he must take upon himself not to return to his foolish ways".[17]
This vow spurred many followers to undertake the trip to Rebbe Nachman's grave, even during the Communist crackdown."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nachman_of_Breslov

 

I wonder what Rabbi Nachman would have taught about UFO's/Aliens?????!!!

http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/

 

Yup.... Mr. Bekkers was awesome... but I doubt that he had a good comprehension of the full implications of The Cyclic Model, the Anthropic Principle and the Law of Complexity Consciousness!!!????

www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/

 

http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/cornelius/crucifixion_quran.html


This verse from the Koran...… is explained and verified in Bruce F. MacDonald Ph. D.'s book and I mention this here because I believe that his book can play a huge role in ushering in an age of genuine peace between Islamic Mysitics, Christian Mystics and Jewish Mystics who truly believe in seeing the positive in others.........… rather than criticizing .... as Rabbi Nachman taught we should do!

 

The Babylonian Talmud says that the Jews killed Jesus by using five different methods. It seems that they wanted him dead.

 

Everything that has ever occurred...… even every feeling and thought and intention has been recorded on higher dimensional energy...… and just as Rabbi Yeshua/ Jesus and Rabbi Nachman and many others said would happen....... all the secrets are being revealed.


http://www.thomastwin.com/7 A Thomas samples.html

 

I personally feel that the entire church is at a crossroads that can be compared with the situation faced in the time of Elijah.

But in our time period we have many advantages because modern medical methods of bringing people back from a brush with death have put us in a place where the big question we face is........"Is the being of light of near death experience fame.........… the Word/ Logos/ The G-d of Abraham/ YHWH/ HaShem.............. or........ is the being of light of NDE fame a fallen angel appearing as an angel of light who is deceiving people?"

The church is quite divided on this issue as you can see from this poll:


http://www.christianforums.com/t7647330/


Do you believe that some NDE accounts fit with scripture?

Yes, I believe that some NDE accounts are genuine meetings with the Messiah or angels. 7 ......29.17%

Maybe but perhaps some NDE accounts are of a meeting with Satan?! 6 ....25.00%

No, the near death experience accounts are mostly false and misleading. 9.... 37.50%

I don't know enough about this subject yet to express an opinion?! 3 ....12.50%

Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 24. You have already voted on this poll


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Former atheist Howard Storm asks about holocaust during his NDE?!

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I personally am wide open to the possibility that what former atheist Howard Storm was shown regarding the background events surrounding the holocaust fit perfectly with II Corinthians 12:2-4:


"I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth; ) such an one caught up to the third heaven.
And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth; )
How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."

 

What offends pastors and leaders within the church is that what Howard Storm was shown about Jews going into paradise after being murdered by German Christians seems to the professional Christians to violate the source of their bread and butter!


Acts 4:12


"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. "


Isn't YHWH/ HaShem/ The G-d of Abraham....... free to recognize prayer made in the name of Moshiach be David or Moshiach ben Ephrayim as equal to prayer in the name of Yeshua/ Jesus?

Or is The Word/ Logos/ The G-d of Abraham nailed down by the limited understanding of professional Christians?

It seems that the situation may have somewhat reversed since 30 C. E.


Even Cephas/ Peter stated that Paul wrote in a way that he could easily be misunderstood.


2Peter 3:16


"As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. "

 

Near death experiencer Aurora Ray asserts that there are 14 Elohim. Seven female and seven male. She says she was shown that every human soul can be traced back to one of these Elohim. I wonder if this correlates with The Seven Spirits of God?


Revelation 5:6 - "And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth."

 

Here are some quotations on String Theory that sure seem to fit with what near death experiencers are reporting about there being life and intelligence all around us in higher invisible dimensions of space - time!

 

Power….. does indeed tend to corrupt us!

Many of the leading religious officials at the time of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus had been appointed by King Herod……… and were really not the type of people who ordinarily would have been chosen for the roles that they were playing.

It seems that the priesthood in a given area…… no matter what the religion is….. will tend to fear anybody who the people flock to hear.

Here is a message given to a near death experiencer by Judas Didymus Thomas (Doubting Thomas)…. and the priests in the area who fear him……. would be Hindu or Buddhist or whatever variation on that religion existed in that area in the first century C. E!

http://www.thomastwin.com/7 A Thomas samples.html

 

At the very highest ends of religious disciplines ultimate truths merge into one. Jews, Christians, Buddhists, etc. all seek what is true and good. The mountain top has many paths leading to it, though.

 

Brilliantly stated Yosh!

A near death experiencer who got really good at duplicating an NDE state of consciousness through meditation got this profoundly encouraging message:

http://www.thomastwin.com/7 A Thomas samples.html

My humble apologies for noticing this reply for over a year!

 

Please quote where they say this.

 

people believe in those things, but Jesus NEVER taught about having a pass life. We as christians shouldn't believe what ANY man says unless it's scripture based ,(Colo.2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ). we MUST believe ONLY God, (Jehovah's), words, Jesus said so ,(Matt. 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God). And he told us that it's NOT HIS, who's words he speaks, but the words of HIS Father ,(John 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak).

I'm glad this guy recovered from his accident. But sadly what he believed to be true , wasn't! I know MANY will hate what I’m about to say, but it's true. I have to say it because Jehovah God and Jesus wants their people to speak the truth, someone might be seeking an answer. He wasn't in the presents of Jesus, Moses and Elijah, speaking on “NDE”, He was tricked into believing so, I'll explain. When Jesus was on earth, also Moses and Elijah. They NEVER taught this, because they KNEW it wouldn't be true. So to believe they were in Heaven speaking with him on this, would be wrong. MANY of us experience something that we felt/feel NO ONE can say it's not true. And in MANY cases they ARE wrong! But if we were sleep or our hearts stopped for a few minutes. This is ALL satan NEEDS to play with our minds.

He is the master of trickery, this is why God said to stay close to him ,(Ephe. 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil). Some christians take him VERY lightly, but satan can do MANY things. Even make things seem as it's of God. He's even got human ministers on earth, who has fooled mankind ,(2Cor. 11:13-15 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works), because they allowed themselves to be fooled by satan

It was satan who made him believe these things actually happened. If he was truly following Jesus teachings and examples, (Luke 9:23 and John 17:16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world). Like doing Jesus Father's WILL as he did, (John 5:30 and Matt. 7:21), he would have automatically KNOWN it was a trick of satan ,(2Cor. 2:11 Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices). Satan does this because he wants ANY who live by this belief, to die alongside him. Satan KNOWS THERE no “nde” or “passed lives”. He also KNOW with a little trickery, humans can be so gullible. Especially when they want to believe something super spiritual happen to them.

Sa long as we believe his lies, he will continue to let us witness it. I used to see what I believed to be dead people. Once I was taught the truth concerning the dead. And started believing Jehovah's words, instead of what I've been taught. The demons stopped showing up. Now they can still show up if they want, but it would be ONLY to frighten me. They usually do things within reasons. And getting me to believe a lie, would mean I would live by that lie, and be destroyed. So it would defeat the purpose of showing up knowing they can't fool me that way. Again, if we TOTALLY follow Jehovah words through his MANY writers. We would KNOW satan's tricks avoid them, and possibly be saved when the end hits. peace

 

the bible is the work of men. the warning to avoid the words of men is the inbuilt protection these men created, to make sure people like you never stopped to question their words.

the vain deceipt is in you thinking you are clever enough to defy the arch trickster, satan.

 

Just last week I read a near death experience account where a man was given the hidden metaphorical meaning in scriptures.

I found his ideas seriously impressive.

http://community.humanityhealing.ne...Group:1309557&id=1388889:Topic:1464548&page=2

 

After I read the Helen Wambach Ph. D. research…… the Dr. Ian Stevenson research…… The Dr. Chet Snow research….. I was basically left with two alternatives…… either the human soul is larger than we tend to imagine and God sends back a part of us to learn other lessons or……. the Devil is really good at counterfeiting what sure looks like reincarnation in some form.

The evidence is too powerful to take cryptomnesia seriously…… so……. we are left with two real possibilities….. either G-d or the Devil……… set up the human brain and subconscious in such a way that a part of us seems to reincarnate…………….. My conclusion was that it was G-d…… and that the same evidence that implies that the human soul is like a DVD On some levels….. in that it can record more than identity or personality…. is also evidence for the resurrection of the dead …. which is the number one doctrine in the Jewish and Christian scriptures.

http://www.iisis.net/index.php?page=semkiw-anne-frank-barbro-karlen-reincarnation-past-life

 

Yosh.... what do you think of the idea of the remains of Rabbi Nachman being transferred from the Ukraine to somewhere in Israel?

Do you think my friend Mordecai is correct that this would greatly increase tourism to Israel?

http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...bring-remains-rabbi-nachman-israel-could.html

Assisting Israelis to bring the remains of Rabbi Nachman to Israel could .....



.... greatly improve the relationship between America, Canada and Israel?

Rabbi Nachman was astonishingly wise.

Assisting his followers to get his remains transferred to somewhere in Israel is one of the lowest risk efforts that Americans, Canadians, Brits, Australians, Europeans and Israelis could possibly cooperate on?!