NBC’s Brian Williams recants Iraq story after soldiers protest

I find it hilarious to watch all the righties suddenly disowning their faithful servant Brian Williams. One of the head cheerleaders for the Iraq war, faithful repeater of every fake GOP scandal, global warming denier, hippie-puncher, etc. He's really more of a "suckup to power" than a 'suckup to the GOP", but since the Republicans are usually the power, he definitely leans that way.

He's your boy, righties. Own him. It's not cool of you to hang him out to dry, not after all that work he did for you. All of your other suckups will see it, and wonder if the sucking up is worth it, being it gets them nothing in return.

 

Yes Williams no longer has any standing next to the professionals at Fox or any other news agency. I'd put any of their reporters up against him especially after this out right purposeful lie, not misinformation, not misreporting, an outright lie to makes himself look like a war hero.

 

Actually Jeb's issue does not even come close to that POS's lie!!

 

We are talking about a well renowned News Anchor who is supposed to /expected to report the truth!!!

 

A lie.
No doubting, the man lied about the events.

I suppose the argument is then brought up, well what else has he lied about, his crediibility is ruined, he should resign.

The soldiers who actually did come under fire are angry, and I get that.
Williams' had no right to place himself into the context of a story he was not a part of.

Why did Willams lie? Probably to get journalistic "street cred" as a guy not afraid to mix it up and risk ihis life to bring you, the viewer, the story. His initial telling of the tale, he told the truth. Helicopters ahead of him had taken fire and were forced down. For whatever reason, maybe a moment of insecurity, he embellished the truth. He was no longer telling the story, he was now part of it. Maybe the ego got the better of him.

If he does step down as anchor and resign it does set a precedent of sorts. What is good for the goose should also be good for the gander. This game of crucifying the perceived "bad guys" on the opposite end of the political spectrum should apply to both sides. If say a Fox news anchor is caught in a lie,or say a politician...well, perhaps they should fall on the proverbial sword as well.

I'm not a combat veteran, so I don't have that perspective on viewing the story...maybe a combat veteran looks upon this as stolen valor and I understand that. However I'm more apt to let it go, write it off as a moment of weakness trying to look like a tough guy, an embellishment of reality as opposed to a completely made up reality.

There will be a time when a Conservative will be caught in a lie, and well, you can bet dollars to donuts they will crucified as wel by the others looking to score one for their team.

I don't know whether Brian Williams can recover from this or not, maybe it will end his career....but he certainly won't be the last to be caught in a lie; and he certainly wasn't the first.

 

WRONG!

 

No, you are wrong.

Two can play this game.

Your move.

 

When I watch the news I want to have it reported truthfully. This guy has lost all credibility. You know it and I know it. Stop defending him!

 

Liberals just get more unglued every day. Here's the real story about where Brian Williams actually stands. SPOILER ALERT: He don't like Republicans.

 

The statement was anecdotal as I understand. Told on talk shows, not as part of an official journalistic capacity.

I menioned before, Rush Limbaugh.

Once back on the air, he said he was "powerless" to overcome his drug addiction without professional help.

Last time I checked Rush Limbaugh is still on the air.

Could you imagine if this was say, Bill Maher? do you thnk Conservatives would let it go? I think not.

A big stink is being about Brian Williams because of the perception, and perhaps an accurate one, that NBC leans to the Left.

If Brian Williams were the most Conservative anchor West of the Mississippi, I'd say the same thing, yeah he lied about a personal anecdote. He embellished the reality of an experience he had while reporting from Iraq.

Like I said, to me, I don't watch the guy, and I hear all sorts of "war stories" from folks that I've no doubt are half assed truths...unless they are trying to gain something materially from it, a recommendation or benefits. Frankly I don't care. Maybe an actual honest to goodness combat veteran cares about it, and I get that. Folks are jumping all over Williams' primariily because he's regarded as a Left leaning anchor is all I'm saying.

 

Let's just forget the fact that he is a well established News anchor for a minute...Simply put I could never make up such a lie. I can not respect ANYONE who would claim such a thing!

 

Hang on! Im taking fire while I type this!...........ohh wait, nope never mind, it was just the big bang theory coming back from commercial. There was a big bang and it was confusing.

 

I think he admits the latter and does believe he did anything that would be classified as bullying back then. You wouldn't believe what I went through in as a high school fraternity pledge. You wouldn't believe what the GIRLS went through.

 

"As you know Jimmy, my military service began while I was on the USS Enterprise. The original; no bloody A, B, C, or D. There I was in command of an away mission when suddenly my ship ended up being attacked by the Gorn. Naturally we gave chase and I ended up fighting one of them on a distant planet ..."

 

I never said otherwise. I simply pointed out the fact that there are well known anchors from all the stations that pull "stuff" like he did and any one of them that gets caught should be punished, Lies are Lies no matter who tells them.

 

Why? This thread isn't about Rush. Not to mention Rush isn't a news anchor.

Goodness. It's seriously bad when one can't come close to staying on topic. It's possibly the quickest way to totally lose credibility.

 

I've read some of your posts, the last thing I care about is whether you think I have "credibility" or not.

Believe me.

 

I never stated you lied. I simply stated many do add stories about their service record, or more to the point they embellish what actually transpired. To make it sound more harrowing. Heck the U.S. Army lied about the Pat Tillman fratricide; they gave him a Silver Star, which is never done for friendly fire incidents. Big cover up back in 2004, of course they eventually told the truth in 2007. Didn't hear too much outrage about that back then. Of course it probably wasn't politically expedient.

Brian Williams lied about being subjected to ground fire while a passenger in an Army helicopter. Like I said probably to gain credibility as a tough war correspondent. He will probably lose his job over it. I just wish the citizenry would get as fired up about being lied to when it isn't so politically expedient to show outrage. Can't help but think much of this is the same old phoney baloney poltical crapola and not being genunie about it. If Williams was more of a Conservative type of fellow, I doubt the outrage would be as bad.

Heck Donald Rumsfeld himself admitted the administration got it wrong about Saddam's WMD. We've stil got folks on here, "oh man they found some stuff, he gassed the Kurds with it"

Ok, and where was America during the Rwanda genocide? We invaded Iraq to save the Kurds? I'm supposed to buy into that crapola. Fact is, you the American citizen...were lied to. The fact Brian Williams was even in Iraq to make up a story about getting shot at...was based upon government lies.

Same old story, outrage about a coporate news anchor talking head, but the government gets a free pass if they just so happen to be on our "team." Ultimately we get the government we deserve I suppose as long as we treat politics the equivalent to rooting for our favorite sports team.

Williams lied, I've never said otherwise. I'm merely saying in the gigantic Universe of lies...from Watergate to Bill Clinton...I personally dont' care all that much about a talking head whom I do not watch to begin with.

 

Herkdriver must be an Obama speech writer. 1,000 words of drivel just to blame failures on someone else.

 

You're more used to the left who hold on tight to known liars ?

Even electing them to a second term ?


Yeah... me too.

 

He lied. He embellished. He inflated his personal experience. He kept up this lie for over 10 years.

He is a news anchor on a major network that does not require a cable tv service to view.

Rush Limbaugh and now Rumsfeld deflections duly noted.

Adding in your multiple paragraphs is simply a means to condone and excuse his unethical behavior.

 

Please post the video of the FOX news anchor lying about coming under fire while with the US Military.

 

The pilot, Rich Krell, who was flying the helicopter in a 3-ship formation (in Iraq), with Williams on board his helicopter.

So Williams was not completely transparent it appears. He lied about being in bird #1 which actually took an RPG hit, but he wasn't necessarily lying about being under fire. An AK-47/74 round, basically 7.62mm can penetrate aircraft grade aluminum which comprises the fuselage of a CH-47D; the type of helicopter Williams was riding in.

This would be grade 6061 aluminum alloy, typically it won't stop a 7.62mm round fired at a reasonable distance. I believe, and I'm not an expert on Army helicopters for sure, the Chinook does have some hard points which offer ballistic protection, but not fully. So, in a way, Brian Williams was under fire and with potentially lethal consequences. No shame in that, why in God's name he made the choice to embellish is beyond me. Without a doubt he did embellish the story and was not transparent. Shame on him for doing that, I won't defend that aspect of the story.

 

Please post a link to where I ever said one had, I said they Lie, many reporters and news celebs do it from both sides. I find it best to not assume to read into what others post what I think they said but go by what they did actually say.

 

I have NO idea why he would need to do it. Though in his 'fantasy' story, he credits MILITARY PERSONNEL with getting him through.

BUT BEFORE CONSERVATIVES start down the 'outrage' and 'HYPOCRITICAL' narrative, their hero, RONALD REAGAN told many first person TALES which were pumped up or TOTALLY made up (yes, he even used MOVIE PLOTS) in regaling his listeners/supporters with 'heroic' moments or quasi-heroic moments or 'one for the Gipper' type moments' about himself and others. Remember Williams is a anchor who reads the news. REAGAN WAS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. Neither man should have to lie using anecdotal stories! Their work should speak for them and there enough REAL stories of others that exhibit will courage and bravery.