NBC’s Brian Williams recants Iraq story after soldiers protest

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  1. Dale Cooper

    Dale Cooper Well-Known Member

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    He also lied about watching dead bodies float by as he stayed at The French Quarter during Katrina. Clue: The French Quarter didn't flood. I guess the bodies were floating on air.

    What a massive blitz of hilarious "I don't care" and "I don't watch" to prove lack of care.

    God, I love it! Keep it coming!
     
  2. Bluesguy

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    Yep, in the French Quarter which did not flood and if there was a few feet of water around your hotel that hotel was not open it was flooded.
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    Actually he uses "we" as in when Letterman ask him what do you do when that happens "we figure out how to get down quick" as if he had anything to do with it. I'm sure the pilots were back there consulting with him,
     
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    I believe Krell has now back off that a bit.

    "A pilot interviewed by two CNN hosts Thursday had his account challenged later that night by a retired U.S. Army officer who claimed he was in fact the pilot in command of Brian Williams’ helicopter during a 2003 Iraq trip.
    CNN hosts Jake Tapper and Brian Stelter interviewed former Army pilot Rich Krell who told the cable news network that he piloted Williams’ helicopter in Iraq. According to Krell, Williams’ aircraft was not hit by an RPG, but did take small arms fire.

    But, hours later, former Army pilot Chris Simeone challenged that claim in the New York Post, contending he was in fact the “pilot in command of the flight that carried Brian Williams into Iraq in March 2003.” However, according to Simeone, “All that hit us was dust.”

    Krell’s account was further called into question by a report in the New York Times. The newspaper identified one of Williams’ pilots as Simeone and reporter Ravi Somaiya later tweeted that four soldiers “completely dispute” Krell’s claim he was the pilot.

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...s-really-in-command-of-brian-williams-flight/
     
  5. Herkdriver

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    Will the real Chinook pilot please stand up!

    This is getting crazier by the minute. I suppose I should now recant my earlier post.
     
  6. Steve N

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    Does it matter who flew the chopper Williams was or wasn't on - Williams already admitted he lied.
     
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    That wasn't the only lie!

    He claimed to see a dead body floating in the street in front of his hotel in New Orleans after Katrina.

    A whole lot of officials have stated there WAS NO FLOODING in that area of town!!!!!

    More and more chips are beginning to fall.
     
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    The flooding in that area just barely went south of I-10 no where near the French Quarter.
     
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    Speaking of which: What about his entourage? Newsmen always travel with a camera guy, a sound guy, a face-spackle expert, a toupee groom, etc. Do these guys all think they were shot down with an RPG too? Is there an NBC conspiracy here?
     
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    I've said this before.

    If you're genuinely offended by Brian Williams behavior, don't watch the news show. Write to the advertisers and tell them you're no longer going to buy that particular product.

    Look, y'all can "rage " all you want on a message board, it's apparent NBC is going to ride this out and see where it goes. This is a business ultimately. You can talk all you want about journalistic integrity but NBC is a for-profit company. If this story doesn't hit their bottom line, they won't care. If they lose viewers, if they lose sponsors, they'll care.

    So please , "rage" on....it's great exercise for your fingers but ultimately means nothing to NBC. You want to hurt them in the pocket book. I alread said. Don't like it? don't watch the show. Don't buy the products.

    Do y'all think NBC cares a rat's patoot about a message board's opinion of Brian Williams? any forum?
    They care about the profit margin, about retaining viewers and in turn sponsors..that's what they care about.

    Are you truly offended by this beyond merely political expediency? Write the sponsers, write NBC, tell them you will no longer support the program if Brian Williams remains on the air.

    http://www.nbc.com/contact/general

    Tell them.
     
  11. Dale Cooper

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    lolol.

    OMG!

    P.S. I contacted them yesterday. We're way ahead of you!
     
  12. Bluesguy

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    Not lately it seems.

    Yes a good reason to make sure everyone knows of the lie here.

    As a measure of public opinion, yes.
     
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    The problem is that what he claimed was an admission was a lie also. It turns out that Brian Williams was in a totally different formation then the one that hit. They were heading south, and passed the formation that would eventually be hit heading north. William's formation was forced down at a makeshift supply camp by a dust storm. The helo that was hit by the RPG also landed at the camp. At no time was Williams' formation under fire, or in danger.

    This is nothing more then stolen valor. If he had any ethics, he would resign immediately.

    http://www.stripes.com/news/us/brian-williams-apology-draws-mixed-reviews-from-mission-vets-1.327935
     
  14. Herkdriver

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    NBC is predominantly a left leaning organization. If the Democrats are cool with the President of the United States telling them "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky" and later admitting it was a lie. What makes you think they care about about whether Brian Williams, a talking head, lied about being under fire 12 years ago?

    Most don't care. The Right is making the biggest fuss, perhaps military veterans are taking it the most serious as it pertains to stolen valor. I think for many it's a forgiveable offense. At least this is the wait and see attitude from NBC executives at this point.
     
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    Exactly.




    "Way back in 2007, I pointed out the pernicious role Williams played in the run-up to the Iraq war, loyally echoing the War Party’s triumphalist nonsense. Citing Howard Kurtz’s 2007 book, Reality Show: Inside the Last Great Television News War, I pointed out in this space that Williams was a reliable foot soldier in the neocons’ war on truth. As Kurtz put it:

    "For [Brian] Williams, it all went back to 9/11. As a citizen, he had thought on that fateful day, thank God that Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld and Colin Powell were on this team. How together we all seemed. In Williams’s view, there was something about the murderous attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon that, in the eyes of the White House press corps, gave Bush a stature that could not be violated.""


    "One could write an entire book about how Williams is nothing more than a government megaphone, along with his network, NBC. One chapter in that book would be the story of the Pentagon program of promoting "military analysts," such as Gen. Barry McCaffrey, who appeared on NBC and other networks to give the government-approved "spin" to events in Iraq. Williams covered that one up as long as he could, and then issued a perfunctory denial.

    The man, in short, is a confirmed liar – but the confirmation took place years before being caught out in this latest prevarication.

    What’s more: Williams is not alone in his fraudulence. His "mainstream" media colleagues are largely complicit in the systematic deception that they call "reporting," and are no more adversarial in their relationship with the political powers-that-be than the Soviet media was in relation to the Kremlin."

    http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2015/02/05/the-sins-of-brian-williams/
     
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    At least Dan Rather went into combat zones. He was a jackass moron but he earned his chops. Williams is a pencil necked pinhead newsreader. Get rid of another leftist (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)bag.
     
  17. Stuart Wolfe

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    Not exactly. The guy got his start as a White House intern under Jimmy Carter.
     
  18. Herkdriver

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    The Stars & Stripes article that supposedly broke this story mentions that on or about March 24, 2003...
    I just spent about an hour looking for any kind of aircraft accident/incident reports available for this time period involving CH-47 helicopters assigned to this unit the 159th aviation regiment.

    All I could find in 2003 among the accident/incident reports available, around this time period.

    Date: 28-AUG-2003
    Boeing CH-47D Chinook
    Owner/operator: United States Army F Co/159th AVN
    Registration: 88-00098
    C/n / msn: M3272
    Fatalities: Fatalities: 0 / Occupants: 8
    Other fatalities: 0
    Airplane damage: Written off (damaged beyond repair)
    Location: - Iraq
    Phase: Landing
    Nature: Military
    Departure airport:
    Destination airport:
    Narrative:
    Struck the ground and rolled over. Written off.

    Whatever actually took place on or about March 24, 2003 involving a CH-47 helicopter assigned to the 159th, was not serious enough to take it out of commission or even warrant an accident / incident report. At least I was unable to find any sort of evidence of it, and typically aircraft accident/incident reports are well documented and typically declassified after a period of time. This did happen of course, I'm not questioning that, I'm questioning the extent of the damage.
     
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    Brian Williams should be fired for lying about this. No question.
     
  20. Bluesguy

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    No it's come from both sides with even Tom Brokaw calling for his dismissal. And NBC would not say they are left leaning, they would tell you they are accurate and without bias. There's no wait and see here, he fabricated the story and not only as a news journalist reported the story as accurate but accepted the accolades about how brave he was and how he risked his life in the name of his profession. Stolen valor.
     
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    It turns out that the original story Williams told involved him building a helicopter out of a bottle of aspirin, an alarm clock, and some thread, flying it into Iraq and personally defeating the entire Republican Guard in unarmed combat. Oh, and also that he's beaten Chuck Norris three times. At that point, NBC management suggested he tone it down a bit.
     
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    Liberals.

    Lying is the cornerstone of their entire personality.
     

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