Obama: No religion is responsible for terrorism

I agree with the president of the US, Islam is not responsible for modern-day "terrorism".

 

I'm not sure what remedy you are recommending. But imagine if China, let's say, decided that all those Catholic priests molesting all those young boys was intolerable, and decided to do to every Christian minister whatever you suggest be done to every Imam. Would you agree this is equally just and appropriate, or would you start doing hotfoot special pleading?

 

Simple, he's gone out of his way to exclude Islam from the dialogue and so has his administration but it's undeniable Islam is central to almost every major terrorist group in the world. So, why not just admit it and deal with it based on reality instead of eliminating the obvious from the conversation? You tell me?

 

Because if he acknowledges the truth he will be forced to declare war on Islam and that would be a threat to start a global war.

 

Some people have a difficult time understanding this. The Bible has some scary and despicable stuff in it, but civilization has filtered out the violent nonsense from the innocuous nonsense. Unfortunately, terrorist groups use the antiquated bat crap crazy stuff in the Quran to attract nutjobs, ignorants and the disenfranchised.

 

No more counter productive than eliminating the fact radical "Islam" is at the center of terrorism.
Sorry, but I'm just not seeing any strong sense of protest in the Muslim community condemning the terrorist, and until I do I'm not buying the Muslim appeasement approach to all this. Where all these "peaceful" Muslims anyway? Asleep?

 

Whatever you point might be it is irrelevant.

Muslims, following the model of the Prophet, and following the Prophet's instructions, are waging Jihad by the sword and threating millions of non-Muslims and "apostate" Muslims.

 

What Is the Truth about American Muslims, Part 1 / 3

by Bill Warner | posted in: Newsletter | 21

The First Amendment Center, the Muslim Brotherhood and assorted leftists at the Interfaith Alliance have produced a polished piece of apologist propaganda for Islam. It has been getting a lot media play, because it says all the things the public would like to believe about Islam. It is a textbook summary of arguments made by Islam’s apologists and serves as a teaching example of how to refute this propaganda using the scientific method.

The theme of this propaganda brochure is that “truth” about Islam is all about opinions. But, the truth of Islamic ideology is found in the Koran, Sira (Mohammed’s biography) and the Hadith (his Traditions). Mohammed’s acts and words are the perfect model of actions (Sunna) for all Muslims.

The grand lie of this propaganda comes from confusing cause and effect about Islam and Muslims. Islam is a concrete doctrine that produces Muslims. This brochure, What is the Truth about American Muslims, argues that we may learn about Islam from Muslims. The beauty of this approach is that you can choose the Islam you want by choosing the right Muslim. Although Islam can be precisely defined, Muslims are all over the map. There is one Islam, but 1.5 billion Muslims and whatever answer you want about Islam, you can find a Muslim who will tell you what you to hear. And that is what this piece is about—finding the Muslims who will tell you what you want to hear.

Here is the truth about Muslims. They will not tell you the whole truth, but only a half truth. Islam is inherently dualistic and holds two opposing truths at the same time. There are two Korans, an early Koran written in Mecca and a later Koran written in Medina. There is no jihad in the early Meccan Koran, but the later Medinan Koran is filled with jihad. So which is the real Islam? Both peace and war are true Islam. A Muslim will only talk about the half he needs. But, there is one Muslim who will tell you the complete truth—Mohammed. Needless to say, this propaganda does not consult him.

Knowing all of this, the following quotes are taken from the brochure, What Is the Truth about American Muslims?

“This resource has been endorsed by 21 diverse religious, secular, interfaith and civil rights organizations…”

Immediately we that learn the authority of this document is based on 21 groups of diverse people. Sounds good? Maybe. But the brochure is supposed to give us the “Truth about American Muslims”. If we are talking about Muslims, then there is no organization that matters. When we talk about Muslims, there is one way to find out the truth about Muslims–Islam. The only place to find the truth about Islam is in the Koran, Sira and Hadith—the Trilogy—Mohammed and Allah.

Think about it. Who cares what some theology graduate of divinity school says about Islam? If he agrees with Allah and Mohammed, then he is redundant. If he disagrees with Mohammed or Allah, then he is wrong. All the organizational “expert” brings is either redundancy or error. Skip the diverse, secular, interfaith and civil rights bureaucracies, and go to the factual basis of Islam—Koran, Sira and Hadith.

The same thing applies to all Muslims. A Muslim is only a Muslim when they follow the doctrine of Islam. When they don’t follow Islam, they are not being a Muslim. It is so simple. Neither a Muslim nor a non-Muslim has an opinion that is worth a hoot, unless it references the doctrine of Islam.

“During the past decade, acts of violence by extremists claiming to act in the name of Islam have raised fears and created confusion about Islam. In the United States, some individuals and groups have attempted to conflate all of Islam with extremist violence by disseminating misinformation and distortions about Islam and American Muslims. This has led to a rise in discrimination against American Muslims and those perceived to be Muslims, attacks on American Muslim institutions, and protests against the building of mosques in local communities.”

“acts of violence by extremists claiming to act in the name of Islam”

What are these “acts of violence”? There is a massive amount of violence in the Koran, Sira and Hadith and it is the violence of jihad. Here is a chart of how much violence there is in Islam’s sacred texts.

Nearly a third, 31%, of the complete doctrine of Islam is about violence. And who is committing this violence? Both Mohammed and his warriors. Is Mohammed an extremist? No. His actions, the Sunna, are the very definition of moderate Islam. There 91 verses in the Koran that say that the entire world is to follow his perfect example. The Koran defines moderation, the moderation of Islam. Islam is violent; hence when Muslims are violent against the Kafir, that violence is moderation. So say, Mohammed and Allah.

Most people consider “moderate” to mean non-extreme, normal, or average and hence, peaceful. But, pay attention here. Moderation implies some scale or reference. As an example, the temperature of 10,000 degrees Fahrenheit would be extremely hot in your living room. But, if you are talking about stars, then 10,000 degrees is moderate, and not even that hot. In the same way, peaceful relations between people are moderate on the scale of the Golden Rule. But, on the scale of the Koran, murder of Kafirs is moderate.

So far as “claiming” to act in the name of Islam, when Major Hassan shoots 42 soldiers in Fort Hood while yelling “allahu akbar”, he is claiming to act in name of Islam. But what he is doing is not violence, it is moderation in the name of Islam—the moderation of jihad.

“some individuals and groups have attempted to conflate all of Islam with extremist violence by disseminating misinformation and distortions about Islam and American Muslims.”

Note that we do not conflate “all” of Islam with jihad. No, it is clear that since 67% of the Sira is about jihad, then 33% of the Sira is not about jihad. This analysis exactly measures the truth of the statement.

What is an “American Muslim”? What is any Muslim? A Muslim is one who follows the doctrine of Islam. What is the American Islam that an American Muslim follows? There is no American Islam because there is no American Koran and no American Sunna. There is only the Koran and the Sunna of Mohammed. End of story. There is only Islam. Muslims are in America as part of the umma (the Islamic community) first, being American is secondary.

Exactly, what part of the Koran and the Sunna does an American Muslim reject or reinterpret? It turns out the words “American Muslim” cannot be defined in terms of doctrine, only in misdirection campaigns such as this.

“By seeking to provide accurate information about religious freedom and American Muslims, this publication does not ignore or minimize the significant threat posed by extremists who promote and commit acts of violence in the name of Islam. We fully recognize the challenge to peace and justice posed by small factions within Islam who lift up extremist theology and pervert their faith to support their violence. All of the world’s major religions have faced similar challenges. But acts of violence by radical individuals and groups must not be used to condemn Islam itself – or to paint all Muslims with the brush of extremism.”

This paragraph is a target rich environment because it contains so many apologist clichés. Let’s tackle them one by one.

First cliché: “religious freedom”

What every person must care about is political Islam, not religious Islam. As an example, the Sharia dictates that during a part of Islamic prayer a Muslim’s backside must be higher that his head. Who cares? Who is trying to restrict that?

Jihad, a part of Islamic doctrine, is political since it is carried out against non-Muslims, the Kafirs. All of Islamic doctrine that concerns the Kafir is political. The amount of Islamic doctrine that is devoted to Kafirs is astounding. Look at this chart based on word count:

The big picture is that over half of Islam’s foundational texts are about the non-Muslim, the Kafir. Islam has a highly detailed doctrine about the Kafir and that means that most of Islamic doctrine is political. This is the reason that Islam has such political impact in America and everywhere Muslims exist.

So drop the “religious freedom” distraction. Let’s deal with the politics of Islam, let’s keep it political and talk all we want.

Next cliché: “must not be used to condemn Islam itself”

We do not need to condemn Islam. We need to know Islamic doctrine and see how it drives the actions of all Muslims, both peaceful ones and jihadists. Islam is dualistic and contains both peace and war (jihad). That is its true nature and we must not condemn it, but know it. We must know the detailed history of political Islam and how the Sharia has annihilated all Kafir civilizations for 14 centuries. We must understand Islam in both root and branch. It condemns itself; we do not need to condemn it.

Next cliché: “paint all Muslims with the brush of extremism”

No, we do not want to paint Muslims with extremism. We want to paint all Muslims with the brush of Islam. We must ask Muslims where they stand on Sharia, the Kafir, jihad, the beating of women, death to apostates and so on. Every Muslim must be confronted with Islamic doctrine. Do they reject the assassination of intellectuals who oppose political Islam? If so how do they oppose it, because Mohammed repeatedly ordered the assassination of all intellectuals and artists who opposed Islam? Assassination of opponents is Sunna, normative Islam.

“Our purpose here is to inform Americans about the vast majority of their fellow citizens who are Muslim. In doing so, we seek to uphold our shared commitment to religious freedom and contribute to a climate of understanding and respect among Americans of all faiths and none.”

“uphold religious freedom”

What a cruel joke when referring to Islam. The Center for the Study of Political Islam produces a monthly newsletter The Bulletin of Christian Persecution. Each month you can read of Islamic violence against Christians in every Muslim country. The dead Christians at the hands of jihadists march on and on each month.

But it is not just Christians who suffer death under Islam. The following graph was taken from data on religionofpeace.com. Since 9/11 2001 there have been over 19,000 jihad attacks. Here are the top four countries:


Let’s look at what this says. Jihad attacks Jews, Buddhists, Christians and Hindus, so much for religious freedom and Islam.

“Who are American Muslims today?”

American Muslim is the latest attempt by the Muslim Brotherhood in America to divorce themselves from the Arab Muslims who riot, rape, murder and kidnap Kafirs in their countries. Oh no, those retrograde troglodyte jihadists are not the new and improved American Muslims.

And what is the Muslim Brotherhood that is peddling the American Muslim label? Well, here is what they believe and proclaim:

“Allah is our objective. The Prophet is our leader. The Qur’an is our law. Jihad is our way. Dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope. Allahu akbar!”

Oh, yeah! They have the American Muslim thing down pat.

There is no such thing as AMERICAN ISLAM. Hence, there are Muslims with an American zip code, but no such thing as a Muslim who follows American Islam. American Muslims, just like all other Muslims, follow the Kafir-hating doctrine of Islam.

The tragedy is not that Muslims put out propaganda, but that so many Christians, Jews, and other apologists so happily sign on to such lies and deception, turning a blind eye to the violence and murder done their own kind.

More to come…

Bill Warner, Director, Center for the Study of Political Islam
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If he actually believes Islam isn't the problem, it's only the "folks" who've hijacked Islam, then why would have do that? It would seem the opposite, especially since he's had meetings with many high profile Muslim leaders, because they would surely support a position to root our the highjackers, wouldn't they?

 

..and yet only 6% of terrorist crime in the USA is perpetrated by Muslims

All Terrorists are Muslims…Except the 94% that Aren’t
http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not-all-terrorists-are-muslims/

 

How in the hell have you guys made it this far? This is a genuine question. I haven't seen ignorance of this magnitude ever. Do you believe Islam is a little country or two in the middle east? let me reiterate there's abut 1.5 billion Muslims (A quarter of the world's population). Can you not see how stupid one would be to try and cause friction where there is none? We must have the help of the Muslim community to battle extremists without them we lose.

 

He explained why yesterday.

 

Right. Keep telling yourself that, I am sure it assuages your guilty conscience to fool yourself into believing that our first black POTUS is not really an American. Sometimes you live long enough to see everything, apparently I have. You may not know your history but in fact, our first black POTUS would have been very comfortable in the GOP just a scant 20 years ago before it got taken over by the illiterate and ignorant fools who seem to run it today. Never worry, despite our contempt for this movement, we will forgive you once again just as we did all the other radical right wing factions in the past. Just console yourself to the fact that you will never be in power again, your viewpoint is marginal at best.

 

Let's see the evidence.

 

Watch the evening news tonight.

 

Lol keep telling yourself that. The Marxists who have taken over the Democrat party we're hiding their true belief system just decades ago. Even Marxist like Obama can't be 100% honest about his true belief system. So you want to talk about a marginal belief system look in the mirror. And if what you say is true, in the country is all progressive from here on out, it'll be because you imported millions of Hispanic Third Worlders into the country. You couldn't convince an educated white majority that your beliefs are correct, so you tried to make the majority comprised of poorer and less educated people. It just goes to show how progressives need to scrape the bottom of the barrel and appeal to the lowest common denominator in order to get ahead.

 

Muslims were instructed not to use violence in the USA. Some SOB's didn't get the memo but they intend to use non violent methods as much as possible in America.

EDIT: Especially now in their early build up to having the numerical strength they intend to have when they will begin acting according to the template we see throughout Europe.

The American Thinker

The Five Stages of Islam

Google it and realize they are still at the 2% level.

 

Which non-violent methods are they using and to what end?

 

Expected non-response.

 

Is there a downside? What exactly does a focus on their being Muslim accomplish?

 

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I know you didn't ask for my opinion and so I'm just putting this out here and you should and will do whatever you will or not, as the case may be.

Take the leap, dude.

He's a Muslim.

You are either right, and I think he is with a hunch based assurance of about 80%, or you are wrong but you'd have lots of company and the point would represent a classic, "Difference without a Distinction."

He may not, after all is said and done (and SHOULD have been done by the MSM BEFORE he was first elected...grrrr) prove to be a Muslim, but how could he have done more for them, and right before our eyes and under our noses than he has!?!

Muslim or not he has never loved America and that is one reason for residency laws. But he'd have passed them anyway as long as he was born in Hawaii.(I eagerly await Truther truths which might prove the issue conclusively.) but til then i will assume, at least for argument's sake, he is a nat born cit.

Muslim or not, he has undermined America from within and opened the door to Jihad and stacked his administration with Muslims linked directly to terrorism.

CIA chief, John Brennan is supposedly a Muslim!!!



I am committing to him being THE finest double agent the world has seen since who?

I am not that welll versed on double or triple or... agents.

But He is delivering America, the Great Satan, to Islam on a platter.

And he is populating the USA with thousands and thousands of Muslims, who will be the benefactors of American hospitality and generosity (thanks to the hard working American taxpayer!) until the time comes and they, in their 1,000's of positions in our infrastructure, can serve Allah by simply throwing a switch at the appointed time or on command.

Allahu Akbar.

"And he looked like such a nice guy!"

 

Because he knows its not a small minority of Muslims who think as ISIS does.

He's afraid if they recognize for what we all know it is then the not so small minority will more likely join the cause and could escalate into a full on holy war.

ISIS knows this its no small minority as well, thats why they provoke by showing brutal videos. Countries like Jordan retaliate and ISIS gain even more support, they're looking to shake out that support. Problem is doing nothing and ignoring them they gain more support as well.

Seems the plan is stick head in the sand, demonize people that call it as it is, reassure Muslims the West wont put our unclean kafir boots on their soil and hope the Western created states of the ME can provide the boots.

Basically they're (*)(*)(*)(*) scared of creating a holy war, which proves they believe its Islamic and know its not a small minority.

 

As you say some Jews did well under that Islamic rule, those that work with them, thats true. Once Islam conquered most of Spain and consolidated power they relax rules like most militants do and gave more freedoms to those that worked with them. But they had other Islamic groups come in demanding they get back to core Islamic principles, again like we see from ISIS who will attack Muslims who arent being Islamic enough.

Ferdinand and Isabella ruled separate areas that Muslims couldnt take, they married and combined their forces to drive Islam out. Isabella was the real driving force and true hero of Western civilization. Upon victory they used Islam's tactics of convert, die or leave to clean house. Then came the inquisition - they didnt simply trust some who said they'd converted. Who can blame them after being second class citizens, sex slaves and tax mules for hundreds of years in their homelands?

 

Isolates the one common thread they all share. Seems like a reasonable start.

 

Unless that makes them easier to kill I still don't see how it helps. All it will do is turn off our allies who are fighting Isis...