Obama: No religion is responsible for terrorism

Obama's not hated because he's black, he's hated because he's a Marxist.

If your talking point held any truth, Herman Cain (who is TWICE as black as Obama) wouldn't have ever led his white competitors in the polls in the run up to the nomination, but he did.

This ship has sailed. The country is now too divided to see fellow citizens as "Americans".

 

Lol ok. If you want to say Obama is a fraud of a leader that is one thing and I agree with you. He most definitely is not a Communist.

 

You said that he didn't blame Islam for terrorism for the same reason Obama didn't blame Islam for terrorism. Since they have the same reason, according to you, and one person is a liar, wouldn't that cast doubt on the other as well?

 

You don't have to look that far back into history, really.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_Irish_Republican_Army_campaign_1969–97

 

BIG Catholic demographic.

And ALL people are either Kafir, Apostate or Muslim...according to the Islamic Trilogy. (Koran, Sira & Hadith).

Unless they are Muslims, Mexicans would be as threatened by Jihad as we American Kafirs are.

 

If the reasoning is sound, why would it?

 

So Bush wasn't a moron and a liar on that particular point, since Obama agrees with it?

 

Turning the other cheek is meant to stop aggression before it starts by being tolerant, it does not mean baring one's neck to a scimitar.

 

When someone gives up drinking or drugs it doesn't matter how long ago or how recently they quit, if they really have quit for good.

If they are real Muslims they might quit violence only until it was safe for them to continue their campaign of conquest.

Muslims have annihilated every Kafir civilization and culture they have inhabited.

The Annihilation of Civilizations

by Bill Warner | posted in: Newsletter | 23

By the time Mohammed died in 632 AD, Islam had used persuasion and jihad to subjugate Arabia. The annihilation of native Arabic culture is Sunna, the perfect example for all times and all Muslims. Said another way, the political theory of Islam is annihilation of Kafir civilization. How well did this political theory work out in history? Is this theory of annihilation at work today?

We have records of Mohammed’s last jihad against the Christians north of Arabia. After he died, Umar, the second caliph, took Mohammed’s jihad against the Christians and developed it into a war that conquered half of the Christian world. But this conquest was only the beginning of the political transformation. Sharia law was put into place and the Christian Kafirs became dhimmis. But Umar was not able to conquer Anatolia, the site known today as Turkey. For centuries, Islam attacked Anatolia and finally took Constantinople, now known as Istanbul, Turkey.

Take a look at the demographic history of the annihilation of the Greek Christian civilization:

This demographic growth chart of Islam has many things to teach us. The first is that the process of annihilation took centuries. Some people think that when Islam invaded, the Kafirs had the choice of conversion or death. No, absolutely not. Sharia law was put into place and the Christian dhimmis continued to have their “protected” status as People of the Book who lived under the Sharia law. The dhimmi paid heavy taxes, could not testify in court, hold a position of authority over Muslims and was humiliated by social rules. A dhimmi had to step aside for the Muslim, offer him his seat, could not carry a weapon and defer to a Muslim in every way. In all matters of society the dhimmi had to yield to the Muslim. Over the centuries, the degradation, lack of rights and the dhimmi tax caused the Christian to convert. It is the Sharia that destroys the dhimmis.

Notice where the curve is headed—100% Islam, just like Arabia. Today, Turkey is 99.7% Muslim. The Christian and Greek civilization of Anatolia is gone. It is annihilated.

What is tragic is that it seems that no one knows or cares. The Fethullah Gülen Movement (Turkish Muslim Brotherhood) of today pays for Christian ministers to go to Turkey and see an Islamic tolerant country where Christians live in beautiful harmony with Islam. And the ministers come back talking about what a wonderful society Turkey is and how well Christians are treated. After all, 0.3% of the Christians are still there in wonderful Turkey.

Look at two more Christian lands—Lebanon and Kosovo. This data only covers modern times and we do not see the beginning as we did in Turkey. See where these areas are going. In short decades, Lebanon and Kosovo will be 100% Islamic and two more Kafir civilizations will be annihilated.

It is a terrible irony that some Christians look at the destruction of Christianity and say that “those” were not real Christians. Indeed, that was the first reaction to the Islamic conquest of the first Christians, condemning those “other” Christians as heretics and saying that the jihad just pruned the garden of false doctrine.

Now, look at the next two demographic growth charts:

Pakistan and Bangladesh used to be Hindu cultures. Now they are Islamic and the few Christians and Hindus left are persecuted every day. While non-Muslims make great distinctions between religions, Islam sees them all as Kafirs. Orthodox Christians are Kafirs, Evangelical Christians are Kafirs, Hindus are Kafirs and atheists are Kafirs. ALL KAFIR civilizations must be annihilated. It is Sunna.

Let us look at one last feature of these curves. Once it starts, it never reverses. Islam never retreats. Slowly, year by year, century by century, the native Kafir civilization vanishes and is never able to fight back, never reverses Islam’s gains.

There is one exception to this law—force and the acceptance of war. Twice in history Islam has been driven out in Spain and Eastern Europe.

Today we see another approach to dealing with the Islam of annihilation. We ignore the history of annihilation and say that all we need to do is love Muslims and we will live in harmony, a wonderful multicultural civilization. A history of 1400 years without a single exception to the rule of annihilation and we will repeal it with a smile and a hug. All you need is love; love is all you need; all you need is love; love is all you need. Repeat that again and again, it will make a doctrine and history of annihilation go away. Actually, the way it works is that the history is never known. It is a cliché to say that those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. It is a cliché but it is true. We have our foot on the path to annihilation today because we refuse to know history.

What is the lesson? Islam, peaceful Islam, is about destruction of all Kafir civilization. Only if the Kafirs realize the goal of Islam is annihilation of their culture, can the destruction be stopped. Islam is at war with Kafirs, and Kafirs are trying to “nice” their way out of destruction. Islam is at war, we are at nice. Mohammed has a dream that is coming true while we sleep.

Sources
Kosovo: http://www.serbianna.com/columns/savich/011.shtml#6
Turkey: http://home.att.net/~dimostenis/greektr.html
Lebanon: Tomass Mark, Game theory with instrumentally irrational players: A Case Study of Civil War and Sectarian Cleansing, Journal of Economic Issues, Lincoln; June 1997.
Pakistan, Bangladesh: http://hrcbmdfw.org/blogs/bangladesh/archive/2007/07/13/722.aspx

Bill Warner, Director, Center for the Study of Political Islam
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I don't think that is true.

Spanish Jews once constituted one of the largest and most prosperous Jewish communities under Muslim and Christian rule, before they, together with resident Muslims, were forced to convert to Catholicism, be expelled, or be killed when Spain became united under the Catholic Monarchs King Ferdinand and Isabella in 1492.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Spain

 

Some Muslime have declared war on us. The surest way to get them ALL to declare war on us is to call them Muslim terrorists. I'm surely glad Obama has some sense even tho righties seem to lack the primitive sense God gave 'em.

 

Why not? Whats a martyr? Heaven awaits.

 

Suicide does not make one a martyr in Christianity, you must be thinking in Islamic terms.

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No one has called ALL Muslims terrorists.

 

we learn from history, those who refuse to learn are bound to repeat it

 

Nah I'm thinking of Jesus's own words according to Matthew and Luke to love thy enemy.

 

Yet he brings up the Christian crusades. Strange who he uses the word Christians tut not islamic .

 

Yes, let us not forget WHY the Crusades were mounted...To get back land taken by Muslims.

"the Crusades, far from being an unprovoked act of aggression on the part of Christian Europe, was part of a rearguard action aimed at stemming the Muslim advance which, by the start of the eleventh century, was threatening as never before to overwhelm the whole of Europe."

"The fact is, in the twenty years before the First Crusade, Christendom had lost the whole of Anatolia, an area greater than France, and a region right on the doorstep of Europe. In 1050 the Seljuk leader Togrul Beg undertook Holy War against the Christians of Anatolia, who had thus far resisted the power of the Caliphs."

And, can we say that 'history' is subject to interpretation?

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2010/02/crusades-response-to-islamic-aggression.html

 

Well, I love good Muslims but, I wouldn't let them cut my head off. Come on now...Are you really interested in this thread or are you just trolling?

 

and the inquisition was for?

Christians did a lot of converting or killing in their history, same with Muslims,.....

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Would "good Muslims" be considered your enemy? If not how does that count? I was interested in the brief discussion as to why Christianity takes such a high road over Islam. I was amused that ISIS is not really in any position to cut most Christian Americans heads off and yet many advocate the heavy destruction of ISIS.

Cognitive dissonance is a fascination of mine.

 

Yeah and I guess you would have advocated for US to turn our heads as Nazi ovens did their work on the Jews.

 

Not me.

Jesus.

 

I don't think it'd be unreasonable for a US President to recognize Islam is THEE common thread that runs through almost all acts or terror we've witnessed over the past two decades, because it is. And I don't think it's unreasonable to make an argument that something is terribly amiss withing the leadership ranks of Islam and to confront that issue head on instead of capitulating to Islamic leaders who demand seclusion from scrutiny, especially since multiple Muslim leaders are quite open about their radical views and even encourage their follows to carry our acts of terror against the infidels. Bottom line, at this stage I find it irresponsible for world leaders to be cower to realty and be walking on eggshells while these radicals increase their ranks right under their noses. I mean, lets face it, the Imam's driving the radicalization aren't going to stop just because we decide to practice political correctness.....not gonna happen.

 

But that doesn't really answer the question. No doubt about it, Islam cranks out more terrorists than any other faith. But those terrorists are STILL a small minority. Should you blame everyone of that faith for the actions of a small minority? That seems harsh - but I notice some people are gleefully try to tar every atheist because one serious nutcase went postal.