The Myth of the Southern Strategy

Since the Urban Dictionary is something that anyone can post to, it's hardly a serious source.

We know you think you're being witty with all these little labels of yours, and deliberate mispellings, but all you're doing is being juvenile.

 

No, I truly disagree, no lie!

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From the guy who has yet show me the racism in the so-called 'southern strategy'.

 

Says the poster who has used Wiki!

Oh and blacks post to it. Are you saying blacks are stupid and these terms do not exist even though they use them? We know you think you're being witty but all you're doing is being racist with that attitude.

 

as your comments show, there's nothing truthful about your disagreement, it's all dishonesty

 

Ii said 'I disagree' and you called that a 'lie'. Think.

 

your lies are obvious

the southern strategy you deny is real despite your ignorant disagreements

 

Where did I lie?

What was racist about the southern strategy?

 

you lie in both of those questions, they were answered before

 

This is Publican's latest little game.

Dispite rheems of documentation presented throughout this thread on the nature and use of the Southern Strategy to stoke racial politics for the benefit of the GOP, Publican pretends that no one has made the case.

This is the sort of argument a four year old makes. He pouts and pretends.

 

Not successfully. You eventually called it racial politics which both parties do.

 

that's pure ignorance of reality

 

LOL! You just called yourself ignorant since it was you who brought up racial politics!

 

You honestly don't know what the "southern strategy" is? Just google it. That is all it is- a strategy to try to gain votes by making appeals to white southerners' racial fears.

 

I asked how it was racist and prove it was racist and tell me who did it. Can you do that? And appeal to who's racist fears and how? I see a helluva lot of assumptions and accusations yet no answers to my questions. Just because something has gone unchallenged and/or questioned based on unproven assumptions and accusations doesn't make my questions any less valid.

 

It isn't a controversial question. It is just a part of history. The GOP didn't pretend that it wasn't doing it. They explicitly ran on an anti-civil-rights platform for a while before moving it back into code talk again. Goldwater, for example, ran almost exclusively on his opposition to civil rights. Here, you can read the history of it here- http://www.salon.com/2013/12/22/how_the_gop_became_the_white_mans_party/

 

JFK voted against the CRA in 1957 as a Senator. Many dems voted against the CRA in 1964. Were they racists?

 

DuBois continued to support democrats his whole life. The party, which remained racist in its policies for decades.

As I have said earlier, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

I have pointed out all the Nixon policies which were pro-civil rights. How do pro-civil rights policies attract Southern democrat racists? What policies that Nixon enacted were the policies designed to attract Southern democrat racists? These two questions are the crux of this thread and they are two questions which remain unanswered.

 

Yes. Before the mid 1960s, both parties were generally pretty racist. The worst of the racists in those times were generally southern Democrats (aka Dixiecrats). During the mid 1960s, the Democratic establishment decided to take a firmly anti-racist stance and the Democratic Party lost the support of the Dixiecrats. The GOP had been barely a major party for a long time prior to that- Democrats had almost a 2-to-1 advantage in the legislature. But, they saw their opportunity to get back to being relevant by capturing all those segregationist and white supremacist voters in the south. That strategy is called the "southern strategy". It worked. The entire south swung from the Democrats to the Republicans- very rapidly in terms of how they voted in national elections and much more slowly in terms of how they voted in state elections.

It actually isn't controversial that JFK was racist before the mid 1960s. He said a ton of overtly racist things and voted for clearly racist policies consistently. That was pretty standard in those days, but obviously no more excusable for being common. Apparently, MLK himself actually convinced JFK of the error of his ways in person. They had a series of private one-on-one meetings, just MLK and JFK in the room, and after a couple months of doing that, JFK's views on race completely reversed and he became a pretty inspiring advocate for civil rights. Kind of a cool story IMO. If you could be a fly on the wall during those meetings...

 

So then why do libruls get so upset at racial politics if they admit they do the same thing? And if not for the GOP, the CRA does not pass. And most Dixiecrats joined the dems. Now tell me why the southern strategy was racist.

 

No, the Democrats don't "do the same thing", they did the same thing 50+ years ago. As history moved on, they corrected the problem. Certainly the Republicans did too to an extent. They're certainly less racist than they were in the early 1960s. But, they haven't improved nearly enough IMO.

Most Dixiecrat politicians just lost their next election and disappeared. A few made a big deal about changing their racist ways and were able to remain. A few switched to the Republican Party. But, the Dixiecrat voters switched almost entirely to the GOP. Some of the southern states went from voting 75% Democratic to voting 75% Republican in the very next election.

I already laid out what the southern strategy is, so I'm not sure what else you're looking for on that. Maybe if you clarify your position for how it could be non-racist, that would make it easier for me to understand what you're looking for.

 

Dems don't play racial politics?? LOL!!

Prove that Dixiecrat voters, who had only one year as a party in 1948, went to the GOP 26 years later.

I never said I didn't know what the strategy is. I asked who implemented it, how, and how it was racist.

 

your comments are just lies, stacked upon lies, stacked on lies

 

Take a Xanax.

 

No, I didn't say that. I said Dems don't "do the same thing." There is nothing wrong with "playing racial politics", at least if by that you just mean campaigning on race-related issues. There are good things and evil things one can do related to race and politics. Campaigning against racism is obviously good and campaigning for racism is obviously bad.

Again, many of the southern states went from voting 75% Democratic to 75% Republican in a single election after the CRA passed. That 75% that voted Democratic is the Dixiecrats- southern Democrats. So, at least 2/3 of them had to have switched mathematically. Actually though, it was nearly all of them. The 25% that voted Democratic after the CRA in the south was almost all black voters who had voted Republican up until the CRA.

I already answered that clearly and gave you a link to a lengthy account of the whole history. If that answer and article are somehow not answering your question, I'm going to need more clarification on what it is you're looking for.

 

And you're wrong. Dems do the same thing if they play racial politics like the GOP.

So you have no proof Dixiecrats, if any were left went GOP.

You know exactly what I asked. If the best you can do is keep posting the same links or articles that cannot answer me either, fine.