The Myth of the Southern Strategy

The hell they have! Do you seriously think that democratic strategists do not look at ways to shore up the black vote???

Yes! So they pimp and pander to blacks, make all kinds of promises then screw them! Where I live, Chicago, it has been dem rules since 1955. And if you go to the black neighborhoods on the west and south sides, they still look like crap..................unless whitey came in and gentrified it. Dems have done ZERO for blacks but always promise them everything come election time.

 

lots of democrats are black, but keep on twisting the truth, just like i predicted you'd do

 

Don't tap dance lefty. I never said black strategists. I said dem strategists, like white boy Axelrod. Your dems pimp and pander to blacks and screw them over after the election.Prove otherwise.

 

You're acting kind of strangely man. You made that argument before and I responded to it. Remember? Just go re-read my reply. No point in me repeating it until you come up with a counter argument, right?

 

You're tap dancing. Both sides play the same game. Grow up and accept it.

 

What are you talking about? You said both sides "play racial politics." I pointed out that opposing racism is good and supporting it is bad, so if you consider both "playing racial politics" then that isn't always bad. You had no counter argument. That's where it stands now.

You need to really focus in on the lines of argumentation. You're just kind of drifting away from the arguments without either acknowledging that you were wrong or coming up with a counter argument.

 

So racism by the left is good. Got it.

 

Just take a look at his posts, he has no point, he just wants to keep derailing the thread by saying "show me how it's racist" "show me how it's racist", but if you look at his recent posts....well, you can't show a racist anything racist.

Don't feed the troll.

 

What are you talking about now man?

 

Good little race pimp.

 

You mad because you keep losing your cool and slipping racist remarks in your posts? Gotta work on that temper, hoss.

 

You call the southern strategy racist and admit that it was racial politics. You admit that the dems play racial politics ergo you endorse racism.

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Why do you endorse racism by your democrats?

 

I don't, unless you are saying you are a democrat.

 

I think you do.

 

No, no, no. You're getting the logic muddled up. Just because A is X and B is X does not mean that A is B. For example, dogs are animals, cats are animals, but dogs aren't cats.

You appear to be calling opposition to racism "playing racial politics." Ok, I don't care, that's fine, you can do that. But if you do, then all things in the category "playing racial politics" are not racist. You follow?

 

Actually, no you don't, and that's the problem, when you decide to start thinking, then please join the adults in this discussion.

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I would get the crayons and draw a picture....

 

you're the one who's tap dancing and denying reality

 

You are demonstrating a serious case of denial and revisionism when it comes to history and the information presented to you on this thread. Once again, for your education and edification an answer to all your questions here. Read it carefully and comprehensively:

How the GOP became the “White Man’s Party”

http://www.salon.com/2013/12/22/how_the_gop_became_the_white_mans_party/

 

Article already debunked in this thread and others. Oh, and... Salon... Lopez... rofl. Nice utterly failed googling attempt.

So... nearly 100 pages and not a single piece of direct factual evidence of any Southern Strategy to attract racists into the GOP, only opinions and conjecture by race-baiters and the same old partisan cutpastes we've debunked over and over... ON THE VERY FIRST PAGE OF THE THREAD. Mountains of evidence produced AGAINST the Southern Strategy, no meaningful refutation of it whatsoever.

OP asked a simple question in the OP post, challenged anyone to come up with DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE, plans, memos, policies, speeches, cocktail napkins ANYTHING substantiating a Southern Strategy to attract racists. In a much less PC age, and given a supposed PARTY-WIDE strategy, it stands to reason there would be some REAL, FACTUAL evidence of it. There's nada, not a shred of any evidence of the Southern Strategy. Case CLOSED.

No facts, no evidence, no Southern Strategy.

 

Sorry to burst your bubble, but Pat Buchannan would disagree:

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/07/07/pat-buchanan-whitewashing-racist-southern-strat/200001



Pat Buchanan Calls For ‘Southern Strategy' Against Latinos, Immigrants

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/12/pat-buchanan-southern-strategy_n_3263356.html

 

I don't see anything in your post which answers the two questions. I have no use from the left leaning Solon.com website or their version of history.

I would like to say that I didn't bother to read it, but I did. It was mostly about democrat Wallace, followed by complete lies and fabrications about Nixon, and excludes all of his civil rights accomplishments over many decades. That is a rewrite of history.

 

LoL! The bomb has been dropped, thread over. Wow, can't wait to see the "response" to this.....

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While I wasn't the member you were responding to I would state that "states rights" isn't the basis for determining if a person is a racist. I would state that history and opinion can establish whether they are.

History Lesson:

When America was founded citizenship was not a condition related to voting. The US Constitution specifically states that House and Senators are to be selected by the "People" which includes both citizen and non-citizens of the United States. In fact at one point over 40 states and territories allowed non-citizens to vote. After the Civil War the racists organized a movement to disenfranchise non-citizens because of the high non-WASP immigration to the United States. The foundation for all laws prohibiting non-citizens from voting are based upon WASP Supremacy and that's racism. Any person that opposes non-citizens voting today is as racist as a person opposing women's suffrage was misogynistic.

When the United States was founded there were no restrictions on immigration for peaceful purposes and, in fact, James Madison, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson all opposed any restrictions on peaceful immigration. The founders of America were so pro-immigration that they intentionally omitted granting Congress any authority to restrict immigration in the US Constitution. It was until the mid-19th century were any laws restricting free immigration passed and that was in response to non-WASP immigration (predominately Chinese at the time). The laws restricting immigration were always based upon WASP Supremacy and we can see that today as our immigration quota system predominately limits Hispanic-Catholic immigration.

Anyone today that opposes non-citizen permanent residents voting and/or that opposes open immigration for peaceful purposes is doing so based upon a history of racism in the United States. One can accurately call them racists because their political opinion is founded in the historical racism of the United States.

 

I am not at all anti-immigration. I support those who come here to work illegally and in principle have no opposition to forging papers and providing them employment in violation of labor and/or immigration laws.

The only border I care about is the one around your property, and your person.

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I don't care about immigrants having or not having voting rights - I don't vote. I don't support democracy or the voting system. They can (and will) do as they please.

 

And I would say that anyone who uses the term "WASP" is racist. It is the N-word for white people. Why? Because it stereotypes all white people as Anglo Saxon and Protestant. There are whites who aren't Anglo Saxon, and whites who aren't Protestant. Secondly, it demonizes people who are Anglo Saxon and Protestant. Are those people of America today cursed with the alleged sins of all Anglo Saxons of the past? Do we treat German's as if they are Hitler, Japanese as if they are Tojo, Chinese as if they are Mao? Use of the term is just anti-white racism.

Opposition to non-citizens voting is now also racist? Either the term racism has been redefined (again), or liberals are just out of argument amo or too lazy to put forward a legitimate argument and have decided that anytime they want their way, play the race card right up front because anyone who opposes us will eventually be deemed a racist anyway. Might as well put that out there right up front and scare off opposition to our whacky ideas right off the bat.