Video Compilation of Baltimore Riots

I can't imagine how one would go about excusing or justifying this behavior. You have to wonder if the participants involved understand that their actions aren't really conducive towards making a statement which resonates positively with the nation. Then again, you also must wonder if those involved have given thought to their actions or purpose at all.

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In case you weren't aware of the situation in Baltimore -

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/ma...chool-purge-threat-20150427-story.html#page=2

 

The answer is simple. My generation is tired of the adults saying we know nothing. We have been listening the last 7 years to promises of hope and change. When I first came into politics, it was 2008. A glorious year for elections! You had actual change happening before our eyes. A women versus an African American for the Democrats, and when it came down to it, Sarah Palin for VP. This was what our generation had been looking forward to. Actual equality. We read about the Civil Rights movement in school, we were the generation raised on it, in its heroism. We were taught that we could make a difference.

So when Obama came into office, we expected that we could continue it. The backlash from the right, so vile. So disgusting, so undeserving. I'm not saying that Bush didn't get unnecessarily attacked. But we didn't notice it. We were young during the Bush years. I remember in 3rd grade reading about the Kerry v Bush election. I thought that Kerry should win because Bush already had a turn, and it was Kerry's chance. Just like a game on the school ground. But I digress. When 2010 came and the GOP took the House everything seemed to go to downhill. No federal government helping people. The Bank bailout, it didn't help the average American. When Osama Bin Laden was killed, we should have celebrated. A man responsible for killing thousand of Americans brought the nation together in 2001. Now it was a contest to see who could get credit for killing him. We lost faith in our government.

But it's more then that. It's the idea that Huge Corporations can influence the government but we can't. We as individuals are worthless. We live in Gerrymandered districts. Banks helped make possible some of the most expensive elections in history. Obama and Romney are just two sides of the same coin. We can't get guns under control. We can't fix welfare. The government defaulted on its loans. College students can't default on our loans. The police are seen as enforcers to a government we no longer have control in. We were raised that racism was in the past, but we see it everyday. From schools to housing. Obama was supposed to be the end of Racism. Imagine how we were shocked to discover minority unemployment was going up, even though the recession was over. It wasn't over, not by a long shot. But who could we turn to?

We want to be heard, but we can't. So, every once and awhile, a revolution is good for shaking the tree of liberty. This is it. This is what a revolution looks like. All the blood. All the destruction. For one reason. To let people know that my generation wants to be heard. Will it? No. Conservatism is too strong in the US. But maybe, just maybe one day actual change will happen. Today might be bloody, with the ashes from fires and the thick smoke of pepper and tear gas, but tomorrow, tomorrow is a brighter day.

 

Probably 15% of the crowd is genuinely upset about Freddie Gray, the rest are there to riot, loot, set fires, etc.

 

So because a bunch of kids took out loans they couldn't afford to pay back, and couldn't ram through enough "social change" in 8 years, they're going to become violent and riot?

Sounds pretty typical of today's "youth" generation. No wonder the country is (*)(*)(*)(*)ed.

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And why can't we pay them back? The federal government set the rules for their own loans. There is nothing superior to the Federal government, there is no alternative, nothing we can go to when the federal government decides to screw its own citizens. We're not asking for social change, just a sign that the government is willing to work with us, as individuals. I don't want them focusing on massive corporations dictating what I should and shouldn't do, I want local support, something that can help me make my own decisions. But when they don't, and it's clear they don't, then the government has become a tyranny. And with a tyranny, it is the job of the citizens to fight back.

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Yes, which after Ferguson and Garner was easily predicted and yet Cummings and other leftists are shocked -- shocked I say! Of course the average protestor is just looking to be part of a memories-producing event that when he or she is in their old age will point to while gumming the words, "And I was there." As if being there was the entire point. The police are dealing with the officers who either killed this man or let him die and so the protests are stupid. The protests are political in nature, stirred up by the left's professional race hustlers and agitators and secretly endorsed by the DNC because . . . politics.

 

Then get the Federal Government out of student loans! That's something conservatives have been wanting for a long time. Progressives, who believe the Government is there to help, were responsible for having the Government loaning people money to go to school. Back in the day, a kid would have to go to the bank and loan money the normal way, which involved income verification, collateral, cosigners, etc. Now any 18 year old kid can take out 80 grand in debt to get an Art History degree, and they wonder why they end up working at Starbucks afterward, paying back their loan (with interest) over the next decade.

 

This has nothing to do with left and right. This is the failure of the politicans for the last 30 years to address these problems. If Conservative ideology is the way to go, fine do it. Don't play politics with it, it just ends up hurting more people. If Liberals have the secrets, then do it. Poiticians who claims otherwise to represent the neediest of society are just liars. They don't change anything. We're annoyed at this. Promises were made and promises weren't kept.

 

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They aren't rioting because of some intellectual contempt. They're rioting because they're the opposite of intellectual.

If they had the intent you claim, how come they're ruining their fellow citizen's property, instead of attacking government buildings?


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I disagree. This, like many other problems, was caused by the left. It's poetic justice that primarily left-wing people are the ones feeling the brunt of it.

We didn't have a student loan bubble back when people were getting student loans the normal way. Now everybody gets a loan right out of high school and overcrowded the colleges. Supply and demand, prices have gone through the roof, and it will continue to get worse.

 

Seems to me "your generation" has a very superficial view of politics, then. Maybe you really do know nothing? It's OK, I don't feel I know much either. In fact, we're all struggling to understand something that really defies all understanding, since the government and everything it's connected to these days, like the banksters and the rest of the corporate world, not to mention everything happening abroad, are far too large, complex, and secretive, to be understood all that well. There's no mental model that can capture it adequately.

But believe me, the least of our worries is what freaking gender or skintone the next president ends up being. I want someone who's fit for office, not some POS who happens to have a vagina or be of sub-Saharan descent.

 

You seem to think that a Conservative ideology doesn't have opposition - serious opposition - standing in its path.

 

They're electing people to the most powerful position on Earth based on these things. And they wonder why things are (*)(*)(*)(*)ed.

 

That is complete chaos! ... I'm amazed that somebody has not been killed yet!

 

I think the best way of looking at it is comparing us to those who grew up in the 1980's. Watergate, Ford, the Vietnam war, Carter were fresh in the 1980's. The children then grew up with that, and with Reagan saying that government wasn't needed, they developed a very different way of looking at politics. Fast forward 10 years to the 1990's. We were born under Clinton, a time when the government seemed to be doing better, that it had redeeming features. Sure Clinton had his sex scandal, but the system worked in the end. Those who tried to play politics lost. Then with Bush, we didn't lose faith in the government, we lost faith in the Republican's ability to lead. We had no one else to compare to. So when Obama came into office, we simply assumed the Democrats would be a better fit for us.

That being said, I just thought of this today in response to this. It's really more how I see it. I grew up learning about politics when most people wouldn't care at all. My generation needs something to rally behind, to get us motivated to be good citizens again. Maybe this is it. I don't like it, but who knows. Maybe this will do something good in the end.

 

Great. Then preach this to the crowd. I don't care about what you think because there's another issue here. My generation is tuned out of politics. We need people who know something about politics, about debating to educate us. You debate, you know politics. Your ideology might be disagreed with, but that's for the best. If people could read your posts and form a counter argument to it, then all the better.

 

So go ahead and prove your claims. What makes me believe you? You decide to insult people without knowing anything about them. What information do you have to conclude that these are "apes"? Is it the color of their skin? I'm not going to believe that argument, not when I made this about a lot more then just this one event. As for why they're attacking citizen's property, remember what I said about the government helping corporations out more then people? There's your answer.

Five bucks says if I looked really hard I could find the Objectivism in my post.

 

These riots are a natural result of the polarization this President has fomented, and of the decades long efforts of Progressives to sow discontent and divide this country. This is about the liberal "war on poverty", which was really a war on success, using the taxes of the successful to build an army of the discontented, and turn a once proud race that withstood REAL adversity and mistreatment into the animals that they were once unfairly proclaimed to be.

This is racists actually succeeding in turning an entire culture into the manifestation of their long-standing opinion of blacks. Racists like Lyndon B. Johnson, who said "I'll have those n****rs voting Democrat for the next 200 years".

You made 60 years, LBJackass. Your racism is turning this country into chaos.

 

Really? The government is being called tyrannical. They have a right as citizens to use their guns to overthrow the government with those guns. Unless I'm missing something, it would appear that the NRA's argument is being used right now.

 

It is the content of their character. Their skin color is simply coincidental, and not the exclusive color of rioters - but close.

There is no answer there. There is flailing infantilism, and nothing else.

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Are you saying it's not as powerful as they claim to be?

 

Then what do you know about the content of their character? It also doesn't excuse why you choice to use the word "ape". There are plenty of other words you could have used. But you decided to use ape. Why?

A 711 was attacked. That is a chain store, probably a corporation helping to run the show. If the government is giving to corporations, then they support the government. Who doesn't support money? So they could be considered agents of the states. If that's the case, then they are a legitmate target.


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Lol, whoever is running this "revolution" is the worst strategist ever. They're not hurting the government, they are hurting themselves. These guys fail at Revolution just as badly as they fail at everything else. Instead of inspiring people to their cause, they are turning everyone against them.

 

That's not really the point now is it? How well they run their "revolution" is not up for debate. It's whether or not they have the right to use guns against them that is.