Conversation with a Pastor

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The inherent assumption of the study is flawed to begin with. That Atheists are distressed with God :)

    What Atheists, and folks like myself who are believers in a God but just do not "defacto" claim to know that Gods name or what that God is thinking at the moment, are folks that want to force their personal or group interpretations about some God on people through law.

    That is what these folks are distressed over.
     
  2. cupid dave

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    There are two deaths.
    One is a "sleep" which lasts until we are "born again," from our genes floating in the other people who are alive.
    We all will experience that death, except for Elijah and Jesus, of course, who both went to heaven alive.

    The second death is extinction.
    Noah watched the extinction of Neanderthal men, 40 millennium ago, because they did not think right about Reality, and avoided the Truth.
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    Christians have already avoided the second death when the Renaissance returned and many weak Christians bought into Feminist sexual promiscuity again.
     
  3. tecoyah

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    You sir....are either terribly misinformed, extremely creative, or an absolute Nut Job.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You say 1) Women are more easy to trick because they are more emotional.

    2)Then you say emotional people tend to make rash decisions.
    3) You also say that people who are emotional (with such emotions) have an impaired ability to think rationally.

    Conclusion: Women are more emotional and people who are more emotional have an impaired ability to think rationally.

    This is exactly what you said.
     
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    Don't forget Enoch too...
     
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    How did Noah know what happened 40,000 years ago when this is the Jewish year 5775?
     
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    Right... I gave you a long list of scriptures a few months ago. You ignored all of them. Every single one.
     
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    Mudman? Care to elaborate?
     
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    According to the Book your God wrote...HE created the first Man out of mud and made the first woman from on of his ribs. Unfortunately SHE was kinda wild in bed so he made a less feisty one for "Adam" and named her "Eve"....poor Lilith was cursed to demonic existence because she wanted to be on top.

    Adam had no idea what he was missing.
     
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    trevorw2539 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Perhaps you could repeat them as I seldom ignore anything that makes sense.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Hang on while QChan looks up Lilith.:smile:
     
  11. crank

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    That's hilarious Qchan :)

    Watch me do it and you'll see what I mean:

    You're going to Valhalla no matter what you believe now. There's nothing I can do or say that will change that.

    Always worth reminding yourself that deeply personal and highly speculative ideas become laughable when you start thinking they apply to others, and saying so out loud.
     
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    Well, the difference here is that he was once a Christian. You never were.



    Ah, OK.
    You do realize that the elements found in the human body are also found in dirt, right?
    Source: http://www.emory.edu/EMORY_REPORT/erarchive/1998/September/erseptember.21/9_21_98Size.html
     
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    Noah...?
    Know what?

    We KNOW because Genesis was a tale very old, and passed down to Moses.
    I suspect the whole story came from the Unconscious mind which knew all about what had actually happened.
    The Collective Unconscious mind is what the ancients called The Third Eye.

    The Unconscious Mind is a collection of all men's minds working as if it is the Good Shepherd who leads us into the future.
    The Collective Unconscious mind KNOWS what will happen and when.
    Because it works silently behind our Conscious mind, aiding and leading various men to perform as they must for our futures.

    The latest hard sciences, using MRI equipment, has now found the evidence that supports what I say here.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Enoch was "taken."

    Most people have assumed this meant Enoch went to Heaven.
    But the word actually means he was found acceptable to God.

    [​IMG]

    I believe that Enoch was actually Homo Habilis, or the first "craftsman" who learned to use tools.
    God "took" what evolution had evolved in Homo Habilis and walked with it ever thereafter in other humans which evolved further.
     
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    an mri takes pictures of the unconscious mind????
     
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    So, if someone momentarily brushes past a church they're 'in the club'? If not, is there a magical incantation which creates membership? And who determines what precisely that magical incantation ought to say? Are there variations on the incantation? If there are variations, who is assessing them to determine which ones pass muster and which don't? Someone must be approving them, else no would know if they're said it aright.
     
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    Don't you get it, Adam sinned, we die, jesus comes we don't die. Yet, we all die. His logic is very easy to understand. If one's IQ is 50.
     
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    You're trying to put way to much intelligence into the posts.
     
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    Logic and Religion don't mix well.
     
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    Don't need to say anymore.

    The simple fact that the "pastor" is a woman is enough to disqualify her as representing the church of Jesus, which by principle states that women must keep their mouth shut and men are the ones in charge of preaching.

    Any "modern variation" of the original rule is invalid. What it has been established in the bible is what it rules.

    You questions to a woman about religion will receive as a response her personal opinion as an individual with no authority to represent anything but herself.
     
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    ah, right, so all the original rules ought to be followed, is that right? well, next time your kids are unruly, you'll need to see they're stoned to death. and picking up sticks on the wrong day? ... well, same again. punishable by death. and please don't mix fabrics, or .... yep, you guessed it. but it's okay to beat your slaves, as long as it doesn't kill them in the first 24hrs. and you if you mind marrying any woman you rape, god will be sweet :)
     
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    I've asked the same or similar questions to MANY male pastors, and had even less worthy responses. Some were downright rude - after failing to even attempt to answer the questions. I've had some accuse me of not being sincere, and not being invested enough in seeking god before asking questions. They've said as much out loud. In every case, I was entirely sincere in my desire for the information asked for, so I can only guess at what they mean by sincere. Most likely, it means "prepared to believe everything I tell you, without question". As per "invested in seeking god".
     
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    You forgot to mention that the RC church does not allow married priests. There is no principle to say priests should not be married. A man and wife commited to their beliefs has far more to offer than a solitary male.
    The old story comes to mind about the priest and his housekeeper. His vest was found in her pantry and her pants in his vestry. Or is that off topic
     
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    What a load of rubbish. ALL Christians are called to be witnesses to their faith. I could take you to women whose faith and knowledge of the Bible would wipe the floor with many of todays priests. I attended a meeting with some Anglican people who wanted to hear what a local Catholic Priest thought about various teachings. We came away with with nothing but Catholic doctrine. He had to consult various papers etc for answers. It's the same in other churches. When an Anglican priest calls Matthew, Mark, Luke and John four of the 12 disciples one despairs.

    It's people like you that put many off from going to church. Male domination has brought much disgrace to the church. Inquisitions, burning witches etc. All in the name of Christianity. It's time the church changed. It's time to atone for the sins of the past - not by word but deed. By reaching out into the community. OK I know some churches are.

    Anyway, I've had enough of a rant.
     

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