Texas denying anchor babies birth certificates!

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  1. rahl

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    *sigh*

    You just agreed with me and acknowledged there is no requirement for the parents to be a citizen.
     
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    Of course it doesn't take and act of government.. Natural born is a US citizen from birth..
     
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    Better be careful who you call a liar

    Text of A resolution recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen.
    Yes i did
     
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    Cubed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ah, ok, thanks. Good to know,

    I'm pretty sure the dropped load was 9 months previous ;)

    ANyway, I think that the whole family should be sent back, but the kid gets to keep their duel citizenship and return when they are old enough to do so, and petition (should they so desire by that point) for their parents immigration. Like every other legal citizen.
     
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    Justice gray simply notes they are domiciled legally here. It is not a requirement. Read the ruling, and his citation of English common law as the basis for his ruling.

    This is like the 10th thread on this topic, but this post has the relevant portion of the ruling.......http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=407716&p=1065006608#post1065006608

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    It isn't clear because it isn't correct. It's why it says all persons instead of former slaves.
     
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    Says congress making it not natural law

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    So one judges opinion now decides things for all of us. You really think their intention was to encourage illegal immigration
     
  7. Angrytaxpayer

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    Liberal voters advocate anarchy every time they protest. Just recently they were blocking traffic on a highway. I don't recall any conservative protest blocking traffic <Rule 2>
     
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    Only two if you dismiss Honorary and Corporate citizenship.
     
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    The problem with "sending them back" is the sheer numbers involved. It's cost prohibitive. While this thread is about Texas, the immigration problem is nationwide.
     
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    Only if you cling to the false meme of rounding them up. Thats just a cop out.

    Send them back as you find them no special round up required.

    Illegal aliens are already costing the US over $100b/yr according to the study linked earlier in this thread.

    That doesn't even take into account the cost of unemployed US citizens that illegals help create.

    However shipping illegal aliens out is futile if the borders are not secured to prevent them from just coming right back.
     
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    There is no such thing as natural law. And it took at act of government to form this country, in order to be a citizen of this country in the first place.

    The mental gymnastics birthers have to come up with is staggering.
     
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    Do you need me to explain again how many judges are on be Supreme Court? And what the Supreme Court does?

    their intention isn't relevant. They didn't intend a lot of things, but hey didn't write those intentions into the law. Had they done so we wouldn't have to have a new amendment to end BRC. But alas, we do.
     
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    You never read either of those case. Remember about 4 weeks ago in another thread?
     
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    You have the Senators who wrote the dame amendment saying what it was for and what he intended it to be used for.
     
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    Yes i know you consider the DOI an arcane document. It took a war and the DOI to form this nation the constitution came much later.

    You must have the gold medal

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    Most decisions are 5-4 and you keep referring to the notes of one judge to prove your point. No need to amend just make you see the light

    Here is how we got there

    Americans watch this and weep
    [video=youtube;DN0IMXgeKu8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN0IMXgeKu8[/video]
    Its all true
     
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    No cop out at all. We are already paying the cost with the INS to "round them up."

    It costs a certain amount to deport a single illegal immigrant. It doesn't matter if those costs are spread out "as we find them" or concentrated in a single sum based on the number of illegals in the country. Costs are costs, and the cost is huge. Now, if you limit the costs to the ones found, and just don't "find" as many, it doesn't cost as much, but the results are negligible, as far as discouraging illegal immigration. Yes, it is futile to deport people when our borders aren't secure, but people demand that they be deported. Someone has to show what we are spending all that time, energy, manpower, and money on, by golly!

    To secure the border is to incur more costs, and that assumes they won't tunnel under a wall like El Chapo, or just come in legally and overstay their visa, like the vast amount of illegal immigrants do now.

    We're already wasting money on ways that don't work. Why throw more good money after bad?

    Maybe there is another way to discourage illegal immigration, other than spending lots of money to build walls or deport millions of people.
     
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    I needed to read no further the the slate article that you posted.

    "But immigration proceedings are matters of administrative law, not criminal law. (As a result, the consequence of violating your immigration status is not jail but deportation.) And Congress has nearly full authority to regulate immigration without interference from the courts. Because immigration is considered a matter of national security and foreign policy, the Supreme Court has long held that immigration law is largely immune from judicial review. Congress can make rules for immigrants that would be unacceptable if applied to citizens."

    Game set match.
     
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    Just how thoughtless are you do you really not know the answer to that. If you are here legally than you have birthright citizenship. Now you do understand the difference between being here legally and illegally don't you?
     
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    end the drug war

    punish employers for hiring illegals, with a e-verify type system for all employees people hire

    fail to use e-verify, and a employee is found to be illegal, felony, mandatory 10 year sentence

    problem solved, they go back on their own

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    You are wrong.. Whether you are here legally or illegally, if you have a baby in the US.. that baby is a US citizen from birth. Read the statutes.
     
  21. Angrytaxpayer

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    That's actually hysterical because over 90% of the illegals that give birth are unskilled, uneducated and some can't even read or write in their own language. I had a few mothers that couldn't sign their baby's admission consent because they didn't know how to write. But that keeps with the tradition of dumbing down the country which is what liberals support.
     
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    Watch the video I posted and you will know why they say that
     
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    No thats simply a citizen. The founders only require it for two offices so it must be something special. They would simply have said you must be born here as you claim the 14th does
     
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    I am not talking about recent immigrants or illegals.. I am talking about Americans who attended US public schools and can't understand the statutes or the US Constitution.

    Are you an ob/gyn?
     
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    Its because of the drop in education that people believe as you do
     

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