Sanders Would Raise Payroll Taxes on Everyone to Fund Paid Family Leave

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  1. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Well, there you have it. Straight from the horse's mouth.

    What gets me is that the Bernie Sanders supporters are the same bunch of people who falsely claimed that Bush's tax cuts benefited the "rich" the most, yet their guy Bernie Sanders wants to raise taxes on everyone directly impacting the middle to lower incomes the most. Go figure.

    Sanders Would Raise Payroll Taxes on Everyone to Fund Paid Family Leave
     
  2. Lee S

    Lee S Moderator Staff Member Past Donor

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    Economics really isn't Bernie Sanders strong suit. Well, it isn't any socialists strong suit.

    I wish you wouldn't pick on Bernie Sanders. I truly want him to be the Democratic Party nominee. I believe Bernie Sanders will do for the Democratic Party what George McGovern did for them in 1968.
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Go Bernie!

    Sanders 2016!
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    So the 18 trillion dollar man is finally admitting he wants to raise taxes.....
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's obvious some kind of societal pathology at work.This Bernie Sanders
    hysteria.It makes no sense,just like wanting to change one's gender or
    insist 2 + 2 = 5.It is part of the unraveling of society.It makes better sense
    for one to be a devoutee and follower of Dracula.Like those creepy crawlers
    in Dracula's dark damp lair where even spiders can feel at home not having
    to hide in crevice to avoid being cleancut and above board.
    Bernie Sanders is a Proud Political Creepy Crawler.Along with his creepy
    Brooklyn accent.
    However take note of this creepy fact.Sanders proposals would if scored by the
    CBO would run in the same neighborhood as our current national debt { $18+ Trillion}
    meaning if Every American were to give to the Government $50,ooo every year
    it would take 576 Million years to give $ 18 Trillion.
    That Makes Bernie Sanders literally bat sh!t crazy as in ...
    $ 18,411,619,097,626.oo and counting !
     
  6. LeeroyHim

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    Escaping the padded room from the asylum again, damn jeffy must have forgot to tie the knot on the jacket again, Bernie Sanders declares he will raise everyones taxes. Because apparently that's the only way family/medical leave will be sustainable, more specifically, payroll taxes. You know that thing that already takes $5000000* from our incomes. Because we have to be on par with other nations, you know those OTHER (*)(*)(*)(*)ing nations that keep running to THIS country because THEIR country is NOT SO GREAT! Get it through ya damn head Bernie, and comb ya damn hair. Thank you.

    BTW call shady oaks so they can come pick up Bernie and take him back to the ward.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/ber...ise-taxes-on-everyone-to-pay-for-family-leave
    *It sure feels like it.
     
  7. Wake_Up

    Wake_Up New Member

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    Yeah, I don't get why some people here are so hell bent on being like other nations. If they think so highly of those other nations, then move the (*)(*)(*)(*) over there.

    Unfortunately, this country is doomed at some point to fall totally under the government. Too many have been brainwashed to the left for it not to happen eventually, and just as in all the prior examples in history, it will crash and burn shortly thereafter.
     
  8. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    I hear what youre saying, but idiots will still vote for this clown.....

    Then what happens?
     
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    Alucard New Member Past Donor

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    Of course, the payroll tax would have to be raised. Bernie Sanders did not hide that fact.
     
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    Alucard New Member Past Donor

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    Bernie Sanders told the truth. Paid family and medical leave would hit everybody.
     
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    It seems nobody around here is willing to actually address the issue itself.

    For all the talk we hear from conservatives about the importance of keeping the family intact, it's strange that measures to do exactly that are constantly argued against in a rather kneejerk fashion.

    The US has lagged behind the rest of the developed world when it comes to family leave. What can be more natural to implement than a means for parents to properly take care of their children during those first years without completely giving up on any economic stability the family might have?

    Of course, that needs to be financed, like so many other things in the US, and with that quite considerable debt the country has, as well as a large budget deficit, taxes need to be raised to bring the revenue up to par. Clearly the idea of lowering taxes to increase revenue has failed completely. If it had worked, the economic situation of the US wouldn't be what it is today.
     
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    Where are all the lefties at?

    Aren't they going to bash Bernie for wanting to raise taxes on the middle to lower class people?
     
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    Less than 50% of the populace is actually in the workforce...meaning less than 50% are even eligible for a Federal income tax.

    Sen. Sanders wants to place more burden on the working class that already subsidizes the 50% that are either not working or working and pay no Federal income tax.

    Sounds fair to me. If Sen. Sanders' intent is to grow the middle class, a tax on the working class is not the way to go about this.
     
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    Or we can go back to why it worked well from the 70's to the early 200's instead of taxing people more? maybe there is a reason why that wasn't as bad of an issue then as now?
     
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    If Sanders had his way, he'd raise taxes on everyone several times for many reasons. He'd raise taxes until he runs out of people to tax.
     
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    Dupe!

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    I'm still shocked that Sanders would say this. Just about every other candidate is happy to tell what they will do but never able to spell out where the money will come from. The frankness of Sanders is refreshing.
     
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    The rest of the developed world has lagged behind the US when it comes to productivity.

    There! Fixed it for ya.
     
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    check please.
     
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    What exactly is it that worked so wonderfully in the 70s, and what makes you think you can simply transplant policies from forty years ago to do today and have it work?
     
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    You tell me, why is this a recent issue since after the early 2000's? You think this is a good plan, but have you considered maybe it would be cheaper to find out way it wasn't like this not so long ago instead of instantly going with charge more money?
     
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    I usually go with "Stupid and corrupt american politicians" as an explanation for why things are the way they are at any point in time. It's a surprisingly universal explanation when it comes to the US.
     
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    No, on several counts. The "participation rate" is over 62%; still low, but certainly not under 50%. You don't have to be working to pay income taxes. Trust me - I've been retired for more than five years and paid income taxes every year.

    That 50% whom you believe are not paying taxes (but could very well be) would also seem to include kids and retirees, not known for having kids. So, the tax would fall primarily on those who are working and mostly of child bearing age. And that seems reasonable.

    You're looking at it all wrong - it's mostly the middle class who are (or would like to) having babies - think more little hungry consumers that may not happen without the family and medical leave policy, which applies in almost every advanced country but outs. So, can people who are NOT working obtain this benefit under Sanders' plan? I really don't know, but, obviously, there isn't much need for it, is there?
     
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    Im not sure how I feel about this issue.

    Morally, of course its right.

    But requiring businesses to pay for sick leave for mothers to stay home with their kids for 3 months?

    and on the tax payer dime?
     
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    Phoebe Bump New Member

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    Unfortunately, there are only two choices, as there are in any country. You can fall totally under the control of the government or you can fall totally under the control of the big cash interests. That's all there is. You might think we are getting close to being totally under the control of the government, but the gov doesn't make a move without the say-so of the big cash interests. You name it and I'll show you where big cash comes in.
     

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