US Muslims: this is worse than after 9/11

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  1. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We've been debating the issue of Muslims in America and Muslim refugees but not much has been said about how they are feeling these days. The vast majority of Muslims in America are completely innocent of any wrongdoing yet are lumped in with the worst terrorists in the world. They are accused of everything from supporting terrorists actively or by failing to loudly denounce them ever time there's an attack.

    The article below in an indication that Muslims in America are being impacted by the hateful rhetoric spewed by politicians these days.

     
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    Alucard New Member Past Donor

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    I can sympathize with the fear that Muslims in the United States are experiencing when someone running for President is using a scenario comparing some Syrian refugees to rabid dogs.
     
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    Well, ISIS is pretty much an ongoing reminder of sheer savagery.. every day.. somewhere in the world. I feel bad for the good guys too, but this random slaughter of ordinary people is terrifying IMO.
     
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    Only shows that US ultra right winger Christians got their ranks filled with terrorists.
     
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    jackson33 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Since you have spent two decades in the ME and you feel most are not savages...please explain why and how all this terrorist nonsense cannot be stopped by those same alleged innocent's? To me, it has to fall on the Imam's or their clergy, whom seem to be pushing a theology contrary to you thoughts, or possibly to a predominately male audience, satisfied with some self conceived superiority over females.
     
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    Well it's a sign of the times when there's a shoot-um-up bloodbath downtown and you've got to wonder if it was done to the battle cry : allah ackbar!

    And then you find out that yes that's exactly what happened.

    People are tired with dealing with it anymore. We know which group is producing the jihadists.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yesterday I heard there had already been 68 attacks on Scottish Muslims for what French and Belgium Muslims did in France.

    This is quite disgusting. We have prided ourselves on having a better relationship with our Muslims than down south and 2/3rds of our ethnic minorities voted for Independence but if lunatics and thugs react like this..........
     
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    This isn't coming from the Imams.. not in the vast majority of mosques anyway.. This is political thuggery by a small group.

    Women are cherished in Arabia as wives, mothers, sisters.. Don't mistake modesty for inferiority.. Women control most of the money and women apply for business licenses more frequently than men. Their culture is built around separation of the sexes.. In some families that is very strict.. in others not so much. You have to realize they have a 50% divorce rate and women write the marriage contract.
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    On 9/11 Americans were in shock. We thought it was a once in a lifetime situation and cut Islam a lot of slack.

    It's been 14 years for Islam to get its act together and it hasn't. Radical Islam is strengthening. Terrorism is now a daily occurrance. Our patience is wearing thin.
     
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    Anti-Musim sentiment was a relatively foreign idea to Americans before 9/11. Entire dialogues have sprung up since then that didn't exist before.
     
  11. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Bush family?
     
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    Over a million Muslims have died as a result of 9/11 and the ME has three failed states while others cannot be sure what is going to happen to them. You feel that was giving them some slack?

    Pakistan pretty much a failed state too last time I looked - which admittedly was a while ago.
    It certainly is. Pity Britain and the US did not listen to British intelligence which told them there were no Al Qaeda types in Iraq but the one thing which would bring them in would be an attack. - maybe the 'war on terror' was not a war on terror after all, I do not know.
     
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    I think a more accurate description is dupes of a satannic religion that advocate jihad....in fact demands it. Do not be deceived.

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...jopEX3Tar9km_cPuw&sig2=vJZV9H3RZAWP_tYg75UsGw
     
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    The followers of islam are consistent in their beliefs and have been mired in them and slaves of Satan for a couple of thousand years....they will not change...unless forced to. All this talk of a peaceful religion, of a few nutcases hi-jacking islam etc. is hyperbole designed to deflect any definitive action against the islamic religion and it's slaves. You cannot be a devout muslim if you are not a believer in Jihad.

    Bush made a huge, huge mistake declaring war against terrorism....he should have declared war against Jihadists.
     
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    Bush in his stupidity trotted around the globe pronouncing Islam a religion of peace......how much more could you have expected or wanted?
     
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    Bush's term of 'war on terrorism' was just one example of his stupidity....and declaring Islam a religion of peace confirmed his stupidity.

    Yet......many were coinfused by it and still are. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Terrorism is just a tactic of war....like blitzkreig was a tactic of war used by the Nazis. Could you conceive of FDR declaring war on Blitzkreig? Well if bush had been the prez back then he might have and we would either still be fighting that war or speaking german.

    Let me make it even more explicit....suppose there had been a group going around germany in the hitler era blowing up stuff, killing nazis, and comitting other assorted terrorist acts....would anyone condemn them? Of course not.......terrorism is a act of war...nothing more...it can be used for good or for evil. Bush decided to come up with some politcally correct name for the war he was launching.....being unwilling to call it a war against Islamic Jihad....thus people were coinfused, thus bush lost his moral authority, thus bush failed to win the war....thus we are still threatend and have yet to pay the most terrible price that we will be forced to pay sooner or later.....the reward that a nation of fools deserve when they are clearly threatened by a enemy but refuse to acknowledge the reality of the situation....such a pepole deserve defeat. So be it.
     
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    One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Terrorism is a form of warfare carried on by those too weak to take stronger and more effective measures.....the West has the ability to completely destroy the muslims....they live only because so far we have mercy on them....they live because we allow them to. Do not think our patience is eternal.

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...p5KvZAqCOi1La51uw&sig2=tUKriDDuLceuvgriSPpiNg
     
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    Yes...not because the muslims do not have a long history and tradition of jihad based on their holy book....but simply because most Americans were not aware of their nature and the bestial nature of their religion and the demands of the Koran for jihad by the slaves of islam.
     
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    What would any population expect when members of their group are seen perpetrating terrible crimes against humanity. We also have the underlying perception that Islam runs counter to the very concepts of freedom and liberty this country prides itself in. As this perception is not denied and is in fact supported by the book they follow, it is inevitable Muslims will be looked down upon. Deal with it people...you are viewed as backward and nasty, if you do not like it then leave the religion behind.

    Oh...that's right you can't without your former friends killing you for Allah as well.
     
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    Most Arabization came about via pre-established trade relations not warfare.
     
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    The same can be said about any group. This is nothing special to Muslims. For instance. 1 white cop shoots a black person for whatever reason. Suddenly all cops in the US are racists. Stereotypes exist. They will never go away.
     
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    It is all based on the Koran........the more devout a muslim is the more apt he is to be a terrorist or support terrorism>>>>https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...7OasC132aXODoSU-w&sig2=nQZXLe9wvnBQ9ZGg1n6hIA
     
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    wait,wait.....hillary said muslims have nothing to do with the violence....I am sure democrats will over-look that and maybe the democrats will begin a program for all democrats to sponsor and taken in at least one refugee per family.....yeh dats America.....embracing stupidty-- for how long now? how much longer?
     
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    Since you put it that way, I'll respond to you.....

    If one white cop is found guilty of killing anyone including a black, he or she is punished, under the law of the State or Nation....BY THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OR NATION. These terrorist, come from and no doubt run around near the same place, so why aren't they charged and punished. Certainly their parents, friends or family know what their up to and it seems nobody cares. What I fear is that maybe half or more of the total Muslim population, honestly believe, these actions/killings are justified or maybe even inwardly support those action, so keep quiet.
     

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