Europe To Send Conspiracy Theorists To ‘Reeducation Camps’

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  1. litwin

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    yeh Putlerists are badly need it
     
  2. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No it is not. Lots of Fascists disliked Hitler and Nazi Germany. Hell... Mussolini was almost pushed into his arms after he for a long time opposed Hitler.
    Fascists and Nazi's are not the same thing.
     
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    The overwhelming majority of the worlds neo-Nazis reside in Russia.
     
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    These laws only apply to children, and they dont mandate jail they mandate a history class for children who have been brainwashed by Nazi pigs.
     
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    None of my business. European laws do not apply to Russians. I see you are allegedly anti-Nazi. Why supporting them in Ukraine?

    Perhaps the purpose of this totalitarian law is to educate those primitive people in the Baltic states who still haven’t learned history lessons and continue glorifying Nazis.

    How about Lithuanians rehabilitating Nazis?

    Glorifying a Nazi Collaborator in Lithuania

    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/glorifying-a-nazi-collaborator-in-lithuania-1.430508

    Or Latvia.

    Nazi Waffen SS veterans join controversial march in Latvia

    http://www.jpost.com/International/Nazi-Waffen-SS-veterans-join-controversial-march-in-Latvia-448126

    Perhaps Estonia?

    Nazi-invasion commemoration ignites row in Estonia

    http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/Nazi-invasion-commemoration-ignites-row-in-Estonia
     
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    How did you manage to get your richly deserved ban lifted?
     
  7. Ethereal

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    The apologists for US government imperialism take a "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" approach to the neo-Nazis in Ukraine, which is the same approach they take to the Salafi terrorists spearheading the rebellions in Libya and Syria.
     
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    I dont support Nazis in the Ukraine because the Ukrainian government isnt Nazi and Svdoba didnt gain seats in the last election. And yes children in these countries brainwashed by either Nazi or Soviet propaganda should be required to attend an actual history class on these subjects.
     
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    What about 'overt approval of a totalitarian ideology, such as socialism'. ? Why is it not 'hate speech'? It is oppressive. It takes the increase from the working man & gives to those who have not earned it, & supports the ruling elite in laps of luxury. It breeds dependency. It is a historical evil in the human experience, with NO positives ever in history. Collectivism has never worked, & never will. It is anti-human, & empowers elitism & a ruling class. EVERY working, thinking person should oppose it at every chance.
     
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    Nazis are evil and need educating or prison
     
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    the guy in the video is a liar. he attacks JEWS, not "Zionists".

    he claims the story wasn't in the US news. so he's a lying scumbag.
     
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    Your video is a lie the man released was not the one charged with the murders.
     
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    Sure you don't.

    You just support the amorphous right-wing nationalists who helped to overthrow Ukraine's democratically elected President.

    That's totally different.
     
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    That depends. If re education means merely publicly denouncing Nazi ideas and presenting a positive alternative that's fine. What the OP is presenting is a new set of legal sanctions against people for holding and expressing the wrong ideas. That's not fine at all. That is in fact what the Nazis themselves did and a huge part of what makes Nazi ideas dangerous.
     
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    the murderers have been indicted for murder and terrorism.


    ...but guy in the video is a liar, and ignores this.

    he clearly hates Jews, as he keeps calling them "Jews", not Zionists or Hasids
     
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    It can mean whatever anyone in power wants it to mean. In short, Europe is screwed.
     
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    Liars screaming "liar" and not posting proof of their claim. No real shocker.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duma_arson_attack

    On January 3, 2016, 21 year old Jewish settler, Amiram Ben-Uliel, was indicted for the murder, and along with a Jewish minor, for participation in the planning the murder. In addition, along with two others, they were both charged with one count of membership in a terrorist organization
     
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    Israel jails two Jewish extremists for six months...
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-detention-arson-attack-palestinian-west-bank
     
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    Sure, and how much time was served?
     
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    you don't know the difference between an indictment and a conviction???????

    :roflol:
     
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    The main difference is that the communists and nazis were idiots. There's nothing wrong with re-education per se..
     
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    And according to them, liberal (in the loose sense) capitalists are idiots and deserve to be re-educated. You're literally mimicking the people you criticise.

    I also have no problem with re-education, but it certainly contradicts "Western values." I doubt how Orwellian this "re-education" is actually going to be, though. If the anti-radicalisation programmes are anything to go by, it's just going to be ineffective and weak.
     
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    indeed.. So how could we ever know who is actually right? how do we know nazism is wrong? All we have to rely on to judge is our own subjective values and such.. The answer is rather simple: Don't fool yourself with relativistic and nihilist nonsense. For me, I find the quest for absolute truth to be impossible and pointless. All we have to judge by is what we and other think. Our personal values, and that of the collective. That's all we have. So, to be frank, I am right because I know I am, and because it largely coincides with collective values. This is the only thing I can offer as a justification -and the same is true for anyone else including you. Unless one wants to take moral relativism to it's logical conclusion and not be able to make a judgement on anything.. But we don't want that. The only alternative is to state that you are right because you think you are. On what other basis can you denounce e.g. nazism? This was the long answer for why I think your first paragaph is meaningless.

    For you second one: No, I don't think it does. Children are tought in schools about the evils of nazism and the holocaust. Stuff like that I consider re-education in the sense of instilling a particular vewpoint in order to discourage a certain ideology. The same should be made with other things.. if the situation is bad enough, the government can do information campaigns.. I definitely think people should be educated more on the evils of communism, and the stupidities of anarchism.. The fewer the better.. if' it's not stopped earyl on they might grow up and do some actual damage.
     

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