Things White Nationalist Don't Know About Crime in Communities

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  1. Tiz

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    You don't have any facts. A perfectly harmless man was gunned down while his wife was pleading to back off because he had traumatic brain injury. He was not a danger to anyone. Even if he had a gun, which is highly doubtful, it is an open carry state.

    But I guess you only think it's okay for white people to open carry.

    As for the person who died during the protest, you know nothing about who did it or why. Your fake outrage about it is pathetic.
     
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    Danneskjold Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You aren't giving any facts. You can't even admit its a problem. that in itself is completely ignorent. I live in a community just like you are talking about 58℅ black 30℅ white. High School drop out rate is 60℅.The city has had a black mayor since 1983. Chester PA and Camden NJ are the same. That's 3 cities in one 30mi radius. There are cities all over the county like that. It's not getting better. Explain that without calling me a racist. Its a fact. its a solid known fact you are ignoring because it doesn't fit youre narrative of the white devil. You know you need to identify a problem so it can be fixed? Solutions. What are they?
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Your accusing me of being a white supremacist?

    That just makes you a disgusting liar as I have stated nothing along those lines or even remotely

    None of what you say is factual

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    He was basically right which is why you have failed EPICALLY to refute him
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    So do blacks and everyone else

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    HE had a gun he was not harmless.

    He was ordered to drop the gun he did not. Even in open carry states you may not brandish a gun at or near an officer.

    HE was legitmately shot in self defense and that is fact what is disgusting and pathetic is your lies about it
     
  5. Tiz

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    Anyone who reads the posts on this forum who still thinks we are in some post racial society where everyone has a vested interest in wiping out the prejudices and institutional biases that characterized the Jim Crow era has to have their head examined.

    There is far more racism, bad faith and scapegoating on this forum alone to question whether we are much closer to ending oppression of black Americans than we were in 1965. When you realize there must be tens of millions of people who think like the people on this forum believe, it is laughable to think you are going to have anything other than what you want. And that is a country where white Americans can spew pure hate and vitriol toward black people as they want, without the slightest worry of negative repercussions.

    And you have the candidate to make your dreams come true.

    If you get an applicant where you work named Shaniqua, you can tear it up and toss it in the trash, and tell your friends you did it. Because Trump has your back. And if they protest, just punch them in the face. Trump will pay your legal bills, too.

    You have the neighborhood that you want. So congratulations.

    Btw, my dad is from Laurel Springs and went to Camden Catholic High School. Those poor Irish were all hard working saints with strong family values. :roll:
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Citation needed.

    Show some racism on this forum.

    Disagreement with your lame premises is not racism.
     
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    Danneskjold Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am from Chester PA. That's got laurel springs beat. I grew up in the neighborhoods, I went to the (*)(*)(*)(*)ty schools. My father was out of work most of my childhood and my mom was working a single job to support a family. A woman with a high school education in the 1980s and 1990s. We got NO help from the government. No food stamps no welfare no healthcare. I myself have a high school education. I was a terrible student had real problems with school and none of the teachers gave a (*)(*)(*)(*). I learned everything I could on my own. I bought my own computer, when I started working at 15. If hadn't done that I'd probably be working at Walmart. I bought my own house, I pay my own bills and taxes, all on my own. There is plenty of opportunity out there for all races. Don't tell me I can't relate to the troubles in these communities. I am not reading about them. I've lived them. Solutions Tiz? Got any? Care to explain any of my points?
     
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    West Chicago is pretty dark. What happened to your claim that blacks had a lower crime rate than whites?
     
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    Everyone who lives in a failed state is subjected to high crime. Name me one day in American history when black communities achieved equal service and protection from enforcement in this country.

    It is rather obvious that a white community would not tolerate such lawlessness, and no, they wouldn't fix the problem internally. They would demand better resources from their government. And they would get it.

    A rich woman in a white neighborhood can get s police car to come to her house if someone driving by merely looks suspicious. But a 9-year-old girl on the south side couldn't get s police car to show up for anything.
     
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    He was a criminal with a long rap sheet who was being told by his wife to not do anything stupid, like attack the police or commit suicide by cop who then refused lawful orders to stop wielding the gun, and became a threat by doing so. He was then shot and killed in a justified shooting.

    You are entitled to your opinion. But you are wrong.
     
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    I have seen the video, but more importantly, I heard the circumstances of how the man became someone they wanted to arrest.

    The man was rolling a joint, sitting in his car (we know marijuana does not make someone dangerous sitting in his own car). Then he (a citizen who they didn't know) was seen with a gun (in an OPEN CARRY STATE).

    The people who saw him were undercover cops staking out someone else. So determining this joint rolling man was a threat to mankind left the scene, out of jackets that identified them as police, and came back and the rest is on video.

    So they knew what kind of situation they were getting into. They had plenty of time to get whatever help they needed to confront the man without anyone having to have a hair trigger, given they all knew there was a gun involved.

    Suppose the guy in the car was the governor of North Carolina, do you think it would have gone down like that?
     
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    Rolling a joint is illegal whether or not it is dangerous.

    Brandishing a gun is not covered by being in an open carry state especially when one is breaking other laws such as using illegal narcotics.

    There was no hair trigger they in fact gave him multiple chances to drop the weapon which he clearly refused.

    Sorry your spin is a failure he was an imminent threat and the shooting was justified
     
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    Regardless of an open carry state or not, that does not mean you can carry the weapon in your hand, and does not mean you do not have to drop it when the officers tell you. Regardless of wether you like it or not, you DO have to drop it when told to by an officer. And if not , being shot is a reasonable response.

    No amount of help would have stopped that man from refusing to put the gun down, and the end result would have been the same. His death, is on him.

    Regardless of who he is, the situation would have happened the exact same. You are niave, you simply do not like authority and seek to criticize it whenever possible. But you are objectively wrong per the law.

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    He knows it. He just hates police. He looks for every opportunity to critizise them just out of an inherent flaw in his mindset. An anti authoritative mindset.
     
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    In his own parked car, yes it does. And even outside his own parked car it does. White people do it all the time.
    It is insane to say the only way to get a man with brain damage to drop a gun is to execute him.
     
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    So I thought you were claiming blacks had lower crime rates than whites?

    Perhaps you can explain why poorer whites have lower crime rates than wealthier blacks, or why Asians have lower crime rates than whites?
     
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    The constitution guarantees equal protection under the law. It guarantees equal justice and impartial juries. I guarantees many other things blacks are not getting from the white people who run the vast majority of national, state, and local governments.

    So those are crimes.

    It is a crime that blacks are 4 to 6 times more likely to be arrested for drug related crimes, even though we know that drug abuse is about the same among whites as it is among blacks.

    That is a crime, even if nobody is actually convicted of it.
    We have no idea if they have lower crime rates, because the arrest and conviction rates, as described above, clearly indicate a massive bias against blacks.
     
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    But is drug dealing about the same among Whites as it is among Blacks?
     
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    have you ever spent time walking around IN a housing project area?..they are run down..government spends no money on keeping them clean and maintaining them..this is what he was talking about..i have spent years working in these areas and i would not wish anyone to ever live like that in america...wonder why politicians never go to these housing projects?..to keep it quiet and out of the news..
     
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    They also drop it when given a lawful order. Which those officers did.

    It's insane to think that endangering yourself by attempting anything goes else is rational.

    Lol
     
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    So you have evidence the homicide rates are actually the same between whites and blacks?
     
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    Not the ones with brain damage.
     
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    I have made a very strong case that in country with long term, widespread, comprehensive, and systemic oppression, crime statistics are not very meaningful.

    Unless ... you want to know which group is the oppressors. And that is the group with the fewest numbers of recorded crimes.
     
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    If you mean by case, you provided no evidence for anything you claimed, then yes, you made a bunch of unintelligible claims starting with your uncited claim that German crime statistics showed Jews having a higher crime rate.
     
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    Not something the officer can reasonably know. Doesn't at all make a shooting unjustified.
     
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    30,000 Jews were arrested in 1938 during the two days of Kristallnacht. That was well over 10 percent of the adult Jewish population at that time.

    That was just two days. What else do you need to know?
     

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