911 Theories.....Are there any facts?

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  1. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    You're kidding me right? Bob quoted you, then changed what was inside the quotes to make it look like something other than what you said, and then tries to deny it?

    :roll:

    Typical tactics.
     
  2. Johnny Brady

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    He openly said he'd done it, so it's no big deal to me, it was just his jokey way of poking fun at me..:)
     
  3. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    Are you terrified of speaking for yourself? You certainly don't speak for the forum or anyone else for that matter but YOU. I don't have a "story" and the "forum" is not aware of any story of mine. I'm here to mostly to discuss 9/11 issues, that's it.

    Utter nonsense, I don't need nor have I asked for YOUR assistance, quit pretending you speak for anyone but yourself, it doesn't add to your credibility, it just makes you sound cowardly.
     
  4. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    I'm only responding to the above sentence because I'm the one who called it a mystery, because that's exactly what it is. It is a mystery when you claim you can't remember what firm nor can you source it, not that it's relevant to anything in the first place.
     
  5. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    I already explained it to you in detail, including what parts are YOUR words, what parts are MY words and the purpose. If you still don't get it you likely never will.
     
  6. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    Let me get this straight. Below is the conspiracy plan thought up by the US government as you believe it:

    1. There were missing funds that congress was aware of.
    2. A congressional auditing committee is formed to to look into the missing funds.
    3. A conspiratorial group within the government didn't want the truth about what really happened to the missing funds to get out.
    4. This conspiratorial group figured out that there were no copies of any physical documents OR any electronic records backed up on servers anywhere for incoming/outgoing emails, electronic transactions, financial data, etc. related to the missing funds. This conspiratorial group was 100% sure that every server and physical document related to the missing funds was contained in that particular section of the Pentagon. This conspiratorial group was 100% positive that every auditor looking through all these details regrading these missing funds was going to be in that section of the Pentagon at a specific time at some point in the future. That group was sure that NONE of those auditors was going to be sick, on vacation, taking a pee in another section of the Pentagon, etc.
    5. So based on the 100% correct information in number 4 above, the conspiratorial group picked a specific time and date to blow up that section of the Pentagon.
    6. That conspiratorial group then hand picks a task force to place explosives in that particular section of the Pentagon. Explosives placed in such a way to LOOK like a 757 struck there.
    7. That conspiratorial group plans to claim that 757 crashed into the Pentagon, but chooses to use something OTHER than a 757.
    8. Instead of putting a real device to record the flight path onto this "something" they chose to impact the Pentagon, this conspiratorial group decides it better to FAKE the flight data and then plant it.
    9. This same conspiratorial group forms a small task force to knock over/plant downed light poles that is supposed to match the wingspan of a 757.
    10. This same conspiratorial group also forms a task force to put a small dent in a pole so they can claim a plane wing hit it before smashing into the Pentagon.
    11. That same conspiratorial group forms a task force to plant 757 parts (serialized plane parts not needed).
    12. And then, the most intelligent decision of their grand conspiracy, this same conspiratorial group decides it best to carry out this explosion, faked aircraft impact, planting of plane parts and downed light poles, when?

    ...WAIT FOR IT...

    IN BROAD DAYLIGHT!!!!! IN THE MORNING RIGHT AROUND RUSH HOUR!!!

    :roll:
     
  7. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    Actually the idea that the US government planned and carried out 9/11 came from some people on Earth, not planet X, whatever that's supposed to be, or "way way out there". It's a theory and not part of the purpose of this thread which asks for 9/11 facts, not theories.
     
  8. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have shot your wad Bob.

    Thanks for telling us that story.
     
  9. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Everything supports what I believe.

    I know the official story is untrue.

    I'm game, you're next.
     
  10. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why are we wasting time with them? I admit their story is amusing.
     
  11. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    I did not say "nobody knows any information", YOU did. I said "neither you nor I know" such information. Can you see the difference? Maybe not.

    AQ did not do it because there is no evidence they did it. That is not their MOS, if you know what that is.

    What happened on that day was a magnificent deception, terrific sleight-of-hand, and most all of us fell for it. Some of us have now discovered that we were deceived. Some of us have not yet discovered that bit of truth. It was the proverbial inside job.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Do you believe everything you see on TV? How old are you Johnny Brady?
     
  13. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    Excellent!

    First I need to know what your belief is regarding a particular argument. For the first argument, I believe the light poles by the Pentagon were knocked down by a 757. What do you believe? Were the light poles cut/planted? Did something other than a 757 knock them down? Or something else?

    After we determine what you believe regarding this particular argument, we can move on to supporting proof for each viewpoint.
     
  14. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What about this story. It is not done by the Government.

    [video=youtube;KGJSZN4apvs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGJSZN4apvs[/video]
     
  15. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    It's not a "story", it's a fact. If and until you source your claim, it remains YOUR story and still a mystery. I'm also responding to YOU not everyone. Grow a pair and speak for yourself.
     
  16. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    That's a story alright and not what it claims to be (a documentary). It's a direct parroting of the OCT and an attack on everyone who hasn't bought it or contradicts it. It's an obvious propaganda piece.
     
  17. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    Gotcha.

    So you're saying that AQ didn't do it based on information you know nothing about, but believe is out there somewhere?

    Do I have this correct?
     
  18. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    I don't believe there is any known video footage specifically of a 757 knocking down those light poles but I will stand corrected if you could produce a link to such video footage. Having said that, is your belief based on what you were fed (the OCT in particular) or do you have some evidence that the light poles were branded with the numbers 757 on them? This thread asks for 9/11 facts after all, not theories or beliefs.

    As an aside, you haven't responded to any of my posts recently. Are you that terrified of responding to my posts?
     
  19. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I want the readers to all consider this as possible.

    We have posting Arab Muslims. They do not want Arab Muslims blamed for 911.

    They arrive with lies. Lies the buildings were blown up using explosives. Tales that even the autopsy evidence is fake.

    Tales no airplane hit buildings. Despite evidence given to survivors, they lie to us and then act shocked we do not believe them.

    i reported I read an engineering report. So the way to refute me is to allege it is a story. I did not state buildings were brought down by magic men in invisible suits carrying explosives into buildings. For this to have happened, there had to be magic very invisible men to carry explosives.

    We are told that professionals doing the investigation all lied.

    Nope, not for me. i respect the family of all who died far too much to pass stories they never died in the crashes.

    [video=youtube;KGJSZN4apvs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGJSZN4apvs[/video]
     
  20. Johnny Brady

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    Between you and me mate, I never could believe that Spock didn't fancy Nurse Chappell, was there something wrong with him or what?
    Maybe when I grow up I'll understand things like that a bit better, and will also understand other of life's great mysteries like the rules of baseball..
     
  21. JusticeOne

    JusticeOne Active Member Past Donor

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    Actually all you have to do is acquire an overhead image of the Pentagon from that day. You can see plain as day the airplane plowed it's way to almost the center of the Pentagon, so that's why you don't see the airplane laying in front of the Pentagon. The truthers won't show you that picture. Glad I could settle that for you. :angel:
     
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    usda_select Active Member Past Donor

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    One who lies about what someone else said has no business discussing logic. That you’re done is no secret…you guys have had 15 years and haven’t moved public opinion one inch in your direction; while an event of multiple dimensions will always have some doubt and that is reflected in public opinion about knowing “everything”…truthers are largely dismissed, correctly, as kooks and generally laughed at.
     
  23. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Personally, I am now as of today thinking they have to be Muslims and perhaps Arabs.

    They do not want to be blamed.
     
  24. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have driven up to the Pentagon. I had no reason to enter it so I drove off. But there are many many cars. Drivers saw the airplane on it's way to the Pentagon. Workers spent up to a few weeks picking up airplane parts. They get tired of being told no airplane hit the building since they worked hard to pick up parts.

    [video=youtube;JEjtnz5pwbo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEjtnz5pwbo[/video]

    [video=youtube;0blkphkszgM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blkphkszgM[/video]
     
  25. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    I haven't lied about any such thing. Just because I've caught you in at least 2 lies (seeing Muslims on TV crashing planes and the wreckage proving it was AA77) doesn't make me a liar and it doesn't make any of your lies true.

    Done with what?

    I'm not a "you guys", I'm Bob. Try not to pretend I'm a "you guys" and apply your silly nonsense to me. It doesn't make you sound very intelligent.
     

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