Why is it wrong (or racist) for whites to vote for another white but it's okay for 95+ percentage of blacks to vote for a black candidate (such as Obama)?
In any sort of democracy, to have any kind of chance at being elected you first have to appeal to the largest voting block. If voters vote by race, then yes you better be that race. The same goes for gender, sexual tolerance, religious tolerance, and a bunch of other stuff that has nothing to do with being qualified to actually manage anything. This is what you call "stupid-voting" and yes it drives more voters to the polls than any other actual relevant attribute. But then it gets worse. Because federal candidates start getting probed to comment on State-issue topics, like marriage and abortion. But some voters strictly vote Red or Blue, and it really doesn't matter to them who's sitting in that seat come voting-day. The saddest part is that only a very small minority of voters pay attention to comments on issue that matter. Those people all identify as Independents (which does make up the largest voting block but within it voters do still lean Right or Left). Democrats or Republican (no matter who their candidates are) are going to claim their Party's PR-agenda to support down-ballot (local) candidates (in the blind) no matter who those down-ballot candidates are. They are all shackled to their Party's agenda, so you never truly get to know what their real positions are (that's why we end up with Presidents that rarely keep their campaign promises). Only Independent candidates have the slightest bit of honesty that can be relied on, but because of ballot-access rules running as an Independent in a Federal election is nearly impossible to pull off, and Independent voters can be silenced in major-party primaries and caucuses that are not "open-voting." So don't blame the candidates for who wins and why, blame the DNC and the RNC, and MSM. Honestly you cannot even blame ignorant voters, because in a democracy "ignorant-voters" unfortunately do have a voice. If the Nation's voting population is overall racists, sexist, xenophobic, etcetera it will reveal itself as on election day for what the overall current trends of the Nation identity regardless of if some people (in the minority) find it offensive or not. Here in the US we constantly mandate that people are not allowed to be prejudice, but the reality is that we can only enforce anti-prejudice laws in identified hate-crimes. We cannot actually demand that someone accepts something that they do not. If that is what we want to change it must be done by first understanding why people have a particular prejudice in the first place and addressing that. Shaming people out of their prejudice might work in public settings but voting is done in private.
Apparently what's wrong with it is that more eligible White-voters actually vote than do eligible Black-voters. Remember Obama lost the Black vote in 2012 that he acquired for Democrats in 2008.
F*cking hell. Can't, for once, someone pretty run for president? Imo, it is always rational to vote for the most good-looking candidate. Trump vs Oprah would be absolutely horrendous. Would still be worth voting for Donald because of his wife and kids, lulz. I could consider voting for Christian Democrats solely because their leader is the best looking Swedish top politician today.
So for you it really is just about the cover? I remember something in Christianity suggesting "coveting" was wrong, but I guess some people just skip over parts of their books.
I do not really care much for democracy at all tbh and my post was a semi-sarcastic rant about how to handle the meaningless concept of "majority rule". Finally I'd like to ask what the heck makes you think I'm a Christian?
I could have overlooked that you were just mentioning that you that you would vote for a Christian candidate based solely on the idea that Tea-party Republicans feel obligated to, despite being sexually deprived.
European Christian Democrat-ism no longer necessarily mean "religiously Christian". Basixally they are just "conservatives". Sometimes not even that (Swedish Kristdemokraterna even participate in the 'Pride Parade' nowadays ) Anyhow, I said I'd vote for them solely because their leader is good-looking (ie not because I necessarily like their ideology). Since I am not American nor living in US, I can't really relate to what you are talking about.
Well you should recognize that European Conservatives are far left of US Liberals. However, that being said, I take it you would have voted for Sarah Palin just because she's got big hooter despite being brainless? If so, I'm glad you're not here in the US voting with the wrong head.
No that was 2008, I would have voted Ron Paul. Besides Palin wasn't really THAT pretty anyways. The "vote for the prettiest candidate"-thing was nothing but a joke, so just relax. Although I do not really see why that would be a stupid reason to vote for someone. If someone's going to steal your money, at least let them be good-looking.
Well you might spend your time in European strip clubs, but that's not how we expect the US to be governed because our government doesn't operate like European governments. And I know that Democracy is still a relatively new concept for Europeans, but maybe in another 200 years you'll begin to understand it.
Ummmm...You do realise that 1. Americans are Europeans and that 2. The concept of democracy derrives from Europe. Right? Your government started off great, as the smallest in the world. Today it is the biggest in the world. US was not even founded on democracy, the word is never mentioned in the Constitution. I understand democracy better than anyone and that's why I hate it.
You spit-out stuff that you have no knowledge and you talk about American being European to someone that is Native American. Yes, there were natives here before Europeans arrived, and some of us even managed to survive the barbaric and unhygienic Europeans. But you know nothing (apparently) about the US Constitution, if you don't think it was established on democracy (at minimally beginning with just White male land owners that paid property tax), and yes it did evolve over time to include women that later joined the work-force and Blacks once the 13th Amendment was established. But correct me if I'm wrong, depending on what part of Europe you're in, you've on;y had voting-rights for about 100 years (graduating from your monarchies).
So, some random Navajo who has absolutely zero relation to democracy is trying to lecture a European about what democracy is. Lmfao. Apparently you do not know that the 1400's-1800's were ruled by three norms; (i)colonialism, (ii)slavery and (iii)imperalism. Everyone on Earth engage in these atrocities. However, Europeans were the only ones to finally oppose it and abolish it. Doesn't change the fact that the word "democracy" is never mentioned in it.
[/QUOTE] You do understand that public elections only occur in a democracy, right? Because I'm not sure what you think the US Constitution says but my copy talks about elections, and then there are further Amendments to the US Constitution that further elaborated on elections. Europe followed the US model, not the other way around. Don't get it twisted that just because White men were drafting this out that some how Europe gets the credit. If I recall correctly the US claimed it's Independence by successfully showing superiority to inferior European influences that had existed for thousands of years prior. The point is Europeans were stuck in a box with no incite on how to climb out of, until the US showed them.
You do, because when you named someone that you would have supported after commenting that your sexual preference drives your choice, you named a guy. So if you're arguing that you're bi instead of gay, then I don't really see the point.
America was not founded on democracy. This is incorrect., I am huge fan of America and all the principles the nation was founded on. Them beating the British is the most beautiful thing I know. However, it is hard to ignore the fact that modern America has left all the beautiful principles it was founded on.
America? I'm talking specifically about the US. If you would like to cite some examples to support your argument then I would be more than happy to review them, but if you are just going to expect me to base my side of the debate against your opinions then you should know I'm not one that ever just agrees to disagree. Rather I expect you to actually support your claim or concede.
Personally it is unimportant if you like to "give" or "receive" and with whom as far as I'm concerned. What I am concerned about is that you would base your vote according to your promiscuity.
Muh, muh, muh. No need to be a smug little ****. Everybody knows that US is commonly referred to as "America"., Well just go and re-read the Declaration of Independence. You'd be surprised to notice there is one specific word that is not mentioned. America is a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy.
