Why is there so much abstention in USA ?

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  1. dairyair

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    No, you gave an absolute bald face false answer. Your usual MO.
     
  2. AlNewman

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    Another of your delusions, this country is not a partnership nor is it a democracy even though it almost has a majority of crazy people that somehow think because they vote they can control others. The mentality of a slave so enamored in the fear of self responsibility they want to be sure others are somehow subject to slavery also.

    No I am not responsible for anything you or any others do. Just because you are afraid to get off your knees is no sign I should join you. Just because you "select" an agent that does exactly the opposite of what you desire, you still believe you need to beg for it to be changed instead of just ignoring it and standing prepared to defend instead of crying like some little baby.

    It's your lunch, you pay for it, has nothing to do with me. Club, what club, Slavery of America?

    Door, what door? Why should I be concerned about some door, I own the place and go where I please within the limits of not transgressing upon the rights of another. When someone steps on my rights, that is controversy and there is going to be a court battle. I am very adept at using their processes and their laws against all the little slaves and their masters.

    American, why would I want to be American? That connotates being a slave and I'm not into slavery. I would say that perhaps you should learn responsibility, especially as regards yourself, accept personal responsibility. Personally I bow nor stand under any man, their is but one that stands above me and that is my creator. This life is but an experience and I will not live it on my knees, I intend to stand tall until I rejoin my creator. I have no fear of terminating this experience but it will be on my feet, not my knees.

    America has nothing to do with this land, the land I was borne upon nor to that which I will return. I travel freely, abandoning that which was and taking up that which is. That which is mine is not America, it is mine.
     
  3. AlNewman

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    Another of your delusions, this country is not a partnership nor is it a democracy even though it almost has a majority of crazy people that somehow think because they vote they can control others. The mentality of a slave so enamored in the fear of self responsibility they want to be sure others are somehow subject to slavery also.

    No I am not responsible for anything you or any others do. Just because you are afraid to get off your knees is no sign I should join you. Just because you "select" an agent that does exactly the opposite of what you desire, you still believe you need to beg for it to be changed instead of just ignoring it and standing prepared to defend instead of crying like some little baby.

    It's your lunch, you pay for it, has nothing to do with me. Club, what club, Slavery of America?

    Door, what door? Why should I be concerned about some door, I own the place and go where I please within the limits of not transgressing upon the rights of another. When someone steps on my rights, that is controversy and there is going to be a court battle. I am very adept at using their processes and their laws against all the little slaves and their masters.

    American, why would I want to be American? That connotates being a slave and I'm not into slavery. I would say that perhaps you should learn responsibility, especially as regards yourself, accept personal responsibility. Personally I bow nor stand under any man, their is but one that stands above me and that is my creator. This life is but an experience and I will not live it on my knees, I intend to stand tall until I rejoin my creator. I have no fear of terminating this experience but it will be on my feet, not my knees.

    America has nothing to do with this land, the land I was borne upon nor to that which I will return. I travel freely, abandoning that which was and taking up that which is. That which is mine is not America, it is mine.
     
  4. AlNewman

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    No one is in "charge" of me so why do I care whom the slaves select?
     
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    I don't believe I said in charge of individual people. I do see you have anarchist identified in your profile, so I see your point if that's the lens through which you see things.
     
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  6. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I Called it, & didn't even have to check the profile!

    I've been on online discussion forums too many years.
     
  7. AlNewman

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    Sad, I don't believe that is the operative word, let's see, unknowing would fit so much the better. 1st world, just what is a first world? Are you implying that your acceptance of slavery is any different than theirs? Actually there is as their slavery is by way of violence while yours is by acceptance, that would be dim witted.

    Anarchy, you have no clue and believe all the little bull that is fed you. [video] This would follow your misguided opinion of anarchy.

    Well now we end on a logical fallacy, if you have nothing to offer, ridicule. I call this the small mind fallacy.
     
  8. AlNewman

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    Seeing is a start but the question is do you understand?
     
  9. Just_a_Citizen

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    BS Is what BS Does.

    Anarchy is for the dim witted, & those who think that a natural symbiosis will spring into being between all people.

    There is always an "Alpha" sect, within any group of humans. That sect, makes up the leadership.

    Keep seeking out that Anarchistic Utopia though.
    No ridicule, just honesty.
     
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  10. AlNewman

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    Failed the test but so proud got one right, even admitting one had no clue even when the answer was right before them. And I have no doubt you never miss an election!!!
     
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    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why would I miss an election?
     
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    Speaking from experience I see.

    Dim witted is involved but it is not the anarchist. Isn't it amazing how all the little slaves not only refuse to acknowledge their slavery but like to ridicule those not a slave. First they start by insisting that other's must be involved in their slavery unless they vote for them to be masters. Then they cry that the wrong slave masters are in charge. But they are always on their knees and can't accept those that stand.

    And within the "Alpha" pact, there are anarchist and psychopaths. Why is it that the slaves always choose the psychopaths to follow or is it that the anarchist refuse to lead? Who is John Galt?

    I seek nothing, I already have all I want and need.

    No, it is ridicule, it takes morals for honesty.
     
  13. AlNewman

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    I rest my case!!!
     
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    Blather on Anarchist. I'm sure we who are slaves to National Identity, are just wrong, & shallow minded.

    You're right. Next year, we'll likely see an evolution to people doing what they want, without any ego.

    We'll all evolve into tribal groups, with no leaders.

    I can see it already. Case rested indeed.
     
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    I see things exactly as others present them not through a filter. To do otherwise is to remain unconscious of your surroundings, a very dangerous situation for an anarchist. To see as others see leaves no doubt as to the intentions of the moochers and looters. I do not doubt for a moment they believe everything they say but I do not have to believe, just understand.
     
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    Sure, I just don't agree, but that's what freedom is about.
     
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    Not only is my case rested but proved so well by yourself.

    Those that are blind, never see even when that bus hits them head-on.
     
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    So you do not understand!!! You have but an illusion of freedom.
     
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    You own America? No... neither do I. This land is owned by a nation and that nation is literally a partnership. If you don't want to be a part of it (there are days I don't)... well no one is enslaving us. We have no chains and we're free to leave this country when we like.

    But yes, it's scary to step away from the many resources that partnership affords us. I understand why you might be afraid to do so, to walk away from America and stand by yourself. It's a daunting prospect. Not surprisingly you are not the only one who chooses to put up with the imperfections of that partnership instead.
     
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    Your viewpoint is not the sum total of all viewpoints, so I understand fully your belief that it is. My mind is sufficiently open to understanding those viewpoints with which I both agree and disagree.
     
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    some people think it does not matter. They are wrong.
     
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    Don't even bother. Don't you know that Anarchists have it all figured out, & it is us, the slaves who can't see that anarchy is the thing to shoot for?

    Anarchists are enlightened.
     
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    Major problem with comprehension it would seem. If I do not honor America, what makes you think I would want to own it? What makes you think anything owns it? Nation, you mean like the Sioux Nation, they never claimed ownership, they were just it's Shepard. Are you under the delusion that this so called nation can own anything? Have you ever met this "nation" or is it just a fiction you accept as real?

    As to what is mine, I own it. I have no fear and prefer to stand, alone if necessary. But funny thing about being free from the shackles of slavery, you keep meeting others of the same ilk, always. Daunting, only to those on their knees.

    To try and put me in your stead reflect badly on yourself. It is only the diseased mind that wants to place others as like themselves to keep from having to face reality.
     
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    For most of my adult life I was a conservative and lived in a Idaho which is a bastion of conservatism. Idaho is a very conservative State thus I never voted for President in Idaho as the last time Idaho went to the Democrats was 1964, one year before my birth. Now I am in Washington State because as I have aged I found Idaho to be a bit too conservative for me. I tried being a liberal for a couple years and found the left to be just as hypocritical as the right thus I became an independent a while back. I did not vote in the last election since I knew that Washington State would go to the Democrats anyway as the last time a Republican took Washington State was 1984. (My Vote would have been for the lesser of two evils, Clinton)
     
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    Anarchist do have it figured out but why would we need you? You would be the neighbor that wants breakfast so is knocking at the back door needing eggs or wanting to bake and knocks needing flour. And if received, not seeing these things as borrowed but given never to be returned.

    You would never make it as an anarchist as you do not have the wherewithal much less the knowledge. You would fold the first time a perceived authority made a demand. No I just enjoy showing what a fool all the little slaves really are.
     

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