Why is there so much abstention in USA ?

No. I'd be he neighbor taking anything I like, when I like, from whomever I like. There's my Anarchy.... & the Anarchy of many others.

To be honest, I'd love that.

 

Most people in this world recognize America exists, and that it owns this land. Claiming otherwise, trying to carve off a hunk of this land for your own—that's an act of war. *shrug* You could win that war. But I doubt it.


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Wrong about what? Voting? That would be your opinion but I would sternly disagree.

 

Well... they do have the most freedom.

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Them you would be looking for a new neighbor but the buzzards would be well fed. You would at last be educated but then it would be your last.

And I would relish being your educator, so much so that I would try for capture for a trial by your peers before hanging you. But then the buzzards would have to put up with the stench of your having peed and crapped all over yourself.

 

A term spoken mockingly by you with little understanding of it's meaning.

 

freedom
noun

the ability to act, speak, or think without restraint


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I think more will vote in the next election

But this is why Australia has mandated voting - no bugger would turn up otherwise!

 

For some that is true. For some, neither party excites them. For some, it is a headache just registering to vote since it is not an automatic registration like in many countries.

I think it doesn't get discussed enough that Americans also vote more often for far more things than they do in many countries. I voted four times last year alone--once in the primaries; once in the general election; once in a local election and once to fill a vacancy created by the death of a local official.

 

Again you lot REALLY need to overhaul your election processes!! One of the advantages of compulsory voting is that the voting has to be SIMPLE - small bit of paper for the house of reps big bit of paper for the senate - keep between the lines if possible and do not draw a pig's arse on it unless you want it thrown in the bin.

It also keeps our records as close as possible to correct and therefore harder to fraud without being caught.

I gather too that the process of "primaries" could be replaced by preferrential voting - where you have a wider array of people but you get to choose who by numbering the boxes

 

How many offices do you actually vote for? Just curious. We have federal, state, and a crap ton of local offices to vote for. Some jurisdictions also elect their judges, though mine does not. We have school boards to fill. We have state constitutional amendments to decide upon. We sometimes have bond measures to approve, though those are more infrequent. In addition to all that, I also own property in an area of my city with special zoning which is overseen by a committee appointed by vote of the property owners which basically is a backwards way of retroactively forcing a homeowners association type restriction on the area by force of local government. Your "overhaul" seems to be a way of advocating for less democratic government.

 

Then it's understood. We both would relish the same Anarchy.

Glad to get that out of the way.

Anyway, toodles,

 

Indeed. Freedom to dream. Freedom to pine over tribalism... At best, . Wait, not tribalism, tribalism included rights of passage, rules, guidelines, which were, more often than not, based not too removed from today, on myths etc., pawned off as religious faith.... Consequences of breaking these rules and such, outside of death, For sacrifices or other.... would include expulsion from the tribe, banishment... Or being sold into slavery, ... Ironic, .....

I'm envious.

 

So you are able to google a word, still no comprehension of it's application. By that same dictionary:

an·ar·chy
noun

1. a state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority:

Would seem neither definition has any basis in truth.

Well it seems those mystical beings in black robes have continued their evil ways. But let's look at the etymology:

freedom (n.)

Old English freodom "power of self-determination, state of free will; emancipation from slavery, deliverance;" see free (adj.) + -dom. Meaning "exemption from arbitrary or despotic control, civil liberty" is from late 14c. Meaning "possession of particular privileges" is from 1570s.​

Wonder where government became involved?

anarchy (n.)

1530s, "absence of government," from French anarchie or directly from Medieval Latin anarchia, from Greek anarkhia "lack of a leader, the state of people without a government" (in Athens, used of the Year of Thirty Tyrants, 404 B.C., when there was no archon), abstract noun from anarkhos "rulerless," from an- "without" (see an- (1)) + arkhos "leader" (see archon).

From 1660s as "confusion or absence of authority in general;" by 1850 in reference to the social theory advocating "order without power," with associations and co-operatives taking the place of direct government, as formulated in the 1830s by French political philosopher Pierre-Joseph Proudhon (1809-1865).

Either the State for ever, crushing individual and local life, taking over in all fields of human activity, bringing with it its wars and its domestic struggles for power, its palace revolutions which only replace one tyrant by another, and inevitably at the end of this development there is ... death! Or the destruction of States, and new life starting again in thousands of centers on the principle of the lively initiative of the individual and groups and that of free agreement. The choice lies with you! [Prince Peter Kropotkin (1842-1921), "The State: Its Historic Role," 1896]​

 

All the little slaves commanded to vote, how trite.

 

All the little slaves commanded to vote, how trite.

 

Why would anyone take seriously any form of suggestion from a slave nation that not only surrendered their guns but now are mandated to vote for their masters. That would be like going from ignorant to stupid.

 

Wow, a shining example of the good little citizen, congratulations. Are those chains very heavy?

 

Understood, I stand under no one. And I also doubt we have a consensuses on the matter. I don't need to relish anything, I have what I want and am willing to die to keep it.

 

Why would you be envious as you do not even understand the concept. The correct word would be delusional.

 

Yes, very heavy, but as long as my great great great grandchildren get reparations for the travesty imposed upon us, I consider it a moral victory at least

 

Reparations from whom, you?

 

Not me. I won't be alive when my great great great grandchildren are old enough to occupy something.

 

So you aren't leaving them anything except a pile of bills, so where do these reparations come from?

 

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