Reparations

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by ChrisL, Jan 15, 2017.

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Do you agree with reparations?

Poll closed Mar 16, 2017.
  1. Absolutely not! No reparations!

    82.3%
  2. Yes! Hooray for reparations!

    5.2%
  3. Other (please explain)

    12.5%
  1. ChrisL

    ChrisL Well-Known Member

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    Hey Telekat! Long time, no see! :)
     
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    They were serfs before 1861. Former Russian serfs received property of the nobles in 1918 -- after the 1917 revolution.
     
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    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And that property was divvied up how?
     
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    How about if the Left pays reparations for the damage that it has done to tne world?
     
  5. ChrisL

    ChrisL Well-Known Member

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    They don't have any money though! They would just make ALL the taxpayers foot the bill for them! :p
     
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    I do not know. My great grand parents got a room in an apartment per family. Life in Russia 1918 was much less affluent.

    All my great grand parents were Jewish. Many Jews were serfs in 1828 -- '58 in different way that many Russian serfs.
     
  7. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That property was claimed as spoils from the aristocrats, by the communists, & divvied up to people, based on party loyalty. The most loyal got the better crap piles.
     
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    Interesting. He/she left out that part, huh? :)
     
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    ChrisL Well-Known Member

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    I see one of the posters who voted yes to reparations calls himself "dirty rotten imbecile." ROFL. :D
     
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    I like. This is best done by the left abolishing themselves. :nod:
     
  11. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Was a great skate punk band tho...


     
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  12. ChrisL

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    Great is subjective, I think. ;) Lol!
     
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    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Indeed. At that time, I was more of a Suicidal Tendencies, PIL, Husker Du, Dead Kennedy's, & Sex Pistols kinda guy.
     
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    African Americans are a minority in USA -- thus it is hard for them to demand reparations. Descendants of serfs and Jews were the majority in Russia, so in 1917 they had enough power to overthrow the nobles. The nobles property was confiscated but the vast majority of nobles were spared.

    My ancestors were also like serfs -- Jewish Cantonists.
     
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    I like some Sex Pistols tunes! Some of their songs rock! :D

     
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    Really immaterial to the topic at hand. If African American descendants of slaves want reparations, they'd do better doing as I suggested, regarding African nations.
     
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    You'd likely enjoy some PIL tunes as well. John Llydon, (Johnny Rotten from the Pistols) started the band after the demise of the Pistols..... & Syd Viscious.

     
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    Lol! He looks like a crazy person. :laughing: Well, I guess he actually WAS a crazy person.
     
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    Well where do you think tax revenues come from?

    Well then why not just say your are against it since we can't afford and it wouldn't make a difference. And on top of that of course simple wrong to punish some for the sins of the past.

    Why not give it to poor whites too, you are advocating racial discrimination. And then of course that government foreclosed property belongs to the other taxpayers so you are still giving taxpayer money away.

    BTW I just looked in the major city I live next too, about 150.,000 people. There is ONE home listed on the HUD website. Same in the largest city in my state.
     
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    Not all of the government's money arrives by tax revenue.


    Because I am not against it in concept.

    You can give it to them as well, but I am guessing you would oppose it either way.

    Did you go through all the government agency listings that are linked to the HUD site like VA, etc?
     
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    Did many White Americans profit off of the forced labour of people they enslaved, and the nation reap the benefits of their involuntary servitude? Obviously. Slaves contributed enormously to the wealth of some families as they helped build the nation, a nation in which Whites were generally accorded both de iure and de facto advantages long after the practice was outlawed.

    Is it possible to now pay just compensation based upon race? Not to individuals, no. Many slaves were sold into slavery by fellow Africans. Many Americans who are descended from slaves are also descend from slave owners. Should they compensate themselves?

    Obviously, the injustice inherent in the practice of slavery endures and has inflicted undeniable consequences, but those social inequities cannot be redressed by individual payoffs. Nor would it be fair or practical to now bill families that can be shown to have profited from slavery.

    A national memorial that honours the contributions of slaves to the nation is the best we can now do. I would support such a recognition.
     
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    No one cares.
     
  24. ChrisL

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    I don't have any problems with any kind of memorials or such things.
     
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    You apparently presume to speak for everyone, and I doubt that everyone has authorized you to do so.

    I'll assume that you mean that you don't care.
     

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