Illegal aliens cancel food stamps to avoid deportation; Washington Post horrified

that's right, what you want is to make immigrants suffer.

Never mind all the work they do for lousy wages... work YOU won't do.

They contribute far more than they receive in welfare or other services. And if a family member is working, then the dynamic is no different than for a legal resident or citizen... except they're paid less.

Oh but how you resent that immigrant child in the 2nd-grade classroom! How you want to make her cry and traumatize her with agents and her parents being dragged away. How happy that would make you and others of the immigrant-hating ilk.

It is embarrassing for those of us who are NOT Ugly AmeriKKKans.[/QUOTE]

Oi God.
This is why.

 

And SS theft, fraud, manipulation is SO prevalent that it is the REAL threat to this country. There needs to be a complete cleansing of the SS data banks.

 

The illegal mom who was so heavily covered by MSM back in February - you know the one peering sadly through the window of a law enforcement vehicle -- her deportation papers came in under Obama. It took that long to complete the function, but funny that MSM pinned it on Trump who had nothing to do with it.

Trump wants mass deportation of felons and criminals. Do you think we should hang on to them?

 

I am sure those sanctuary cities are going above and beyond for their special group de jour. From what I hear, there are 500 of those law breaking cities to choose from. They smell illegal voters...

 

Regardless of how you wish to define it, I stated that no American president previously approved of mass deportation.

If you are aware of any previous president approving of mass deportation, please provide credible documentation of his having done so.

 

http://www.ca.gov/Agencies/Social-Services-Department-of/Agency-Services/Apply-for-Food-Stamps

What documents do I need to bring?

• Proof of identity (driver's license, etc.), alien status.

• Social Security Numbers for all household members.

• If employed, proof of income (wage stubs, earning statements, etc.) for the past 30 days.

• Bank statements for checking accounts, savings accounts, certificates of deposit, credit union accounts, retirement accounts, stocks, bonds, dividends, etc.

• Proof of shelter costs (rent or mortgage payment, lot rent, household, real estate, taxes, utility bills – heat, electricity, water/sewage/garbage, telephone, etc.)

• 
  
  Even in Mexifornia an illegal isn't eligible for foodstamps.

 

That sounds like a problem with your state or county. Not a federal problem.
Most food stamp programs are administered at the county level.

 

I am aware that the polls showed the gap in the presidential election closing to the point that the cumulative average gave only a 3.2% edge to Clinton in the popular vote that she carried by only 2.1% - more accurate than in 2012.

Do you now reject all polls, or just those you don't like? When you don't like the result of public polls, how is your polling yourself more accurate?

 

You've been harboring illegals for 20 yrs? Have you reported those illegals?
If not, you've been harboring them and are part of the problem.

 

True. As I correctly stated, no previous president approved of mass deportation. Of course, presidents varied in the number of deportations that occurred under their tenures, but all individuals were prosecuted under specific criteria in each case. No president ever condemned an entire class to be deported en masse.

 

Continuing Obama's targeting felons is a good idea.

As I noted, I agree with the majority of Americans who want criminals deported, but that does not mean calling folks criminals so that they can be deported en masse.

Rather than mindless, mass deportation, if individuals are found guilty of felonies, those individuals should be deported.

 

You stated: "No American president previously approved of mass deportation"

You are wrong. As I outlined with proof, earlier:

False: Both Bill Clinton and Obama called for the deportation of illegal aliens from our society. Both did it publicly and Obama actually deported more illegal aliens than any other previous President.

Bill Clinton: "That’s why our administration has moved aggressively to secure our borders more by hiring a record number of new border guards, by deporting twice as many criminal aliens as ever before, by cracking down on illegal hiring, by barring welfare benefits to illegal aliens”

You can watch the full video and read more here: http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/04/b...egal-immigration-is-the-same-as-trumps-video/

Barack Obama: According to governmental data, the Obama administration has deported more people than any other president's administration in history. In fact, they have deported more than the sum of all the presidents of the 20th century.

You can read more here: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-deportation-policy-numbers/story?id=41715661

Result: We have determined Natty Bumpo's comments to be Fake News, Again. lol

 

Absolutely. It cannot be emphasized enough. I read this study years ago. It's simply shocking that the U.S authorities did very little or almost nothing to stop widespread criminality.

Illegal, but Not Undocumented

By Ronald W. Mortensen June 2009


Download this Backgrounder as a pdf

http://cis.org/IdentityTheft


This Backgrounder examines illegal immigration-related document fraud and identity theft that is committed primarily for the purpose of employment. It debunks three common misconceptions: illegal aliens are “undocumented;” the transgressions committed by illegal aliens to obtain jobs are minor; and illegal-alien document fraud and identity theft are victimless crimes. It discusses how some community leaders rationalize these crimes, contributing to a deterioration of the respect for laws in our nation, and presents a variety of remedies, including more widespread electronic verification of work status (E-Verify and the Social Security Number Verification Service) and immigrant outreach programs to explain the ramifications and risks of document fraud and identity theft.

The findings include:

Illegal immigrants are not “undocumented.” They have fraudulent documents such as counterfeit Social Security cards, forged drivers licenses, fake “green cards,” and phony birth certificates. Experts suggest that approximately 75 percent of working-age illegal aliens use fraudulent Social Security cards to obtain employment.

Most (98 percent) Social Security number (SSN) thieves use their own names with stolen numbers. The federal E-Verify program, now mandated in only 14 states, can detect this fraud. Universal, mandatory use of E-Verify would curb this and stop virtually 100 percent of child identity theft.

Illegal immigration and high levels of identity theft go hand-in-hand. States with the most illegal immigration also have high levels of job-related identity theft. In Arizona, 33 percent or all identity theft is job-related (as opposed to identity theft motivated simply by profit). In Texas it is 27 percent; in New Mexico, 23 percent; in Colorado, 22 percent; California, 20 percent; and in Nevada, 16 percent. Eight of the 10 states with the highest percentage of illegal aliens in their total population are among the top 10 states in identity theft (Arizona, California, Florida, Texas, Nevada, New York, Georgia, and Colorado).

Children are prime targets. In Arizona, it is estimated that over one million children are victims of identity theft. In Utah, 1,626 companies were found to be paying wages to the SSNs of children on public assistance under the age of 13. These individuals suffer very real and very serious consequences in their lives.

Illegal aliens commit felonies in order to get jobs. Illegal aliens who use fraudulent documents, perjure themselves on I-9 forms, and commit identity theft in order to get jobs are committing serious offenses and are not “law abiding.”

Illegally employed aliens send billions of dollars annually to their home countries, rather than spending it in the United States and helping stimulate the American economy. In October 2008 alone, $2.4 billion was transferred to Mexico.

Tolerance of corruption erodes the rule of law. Corruption is a serious problem in most illegal aliens’ home countries. Allowing it to flourish here paves the way for additional criminal activity and increased corruption throughout society.

Leaders support perpetrators and ignore victims. Political, civic, religious, business, education, and media leaders blame Americans for “forcing” illegal aliens to commit document fraud and identity theft. No similar concern is expressed for the American men, women, and children whose lives are destroyed in the process.

The Social Security Administration and Internal Revenue Service facilitate illegal immigrant-driven identity theft. Both turn a blind eye to massive SSN fraud and take no action to stop it. The Social Security Administration assigns SSNs to new-born infants that are being used illegally. The IRS demands that victims pay taxes on wages earned by illegal aliens using their stolen SSNs, while taking no action to stop the identity theft.

State and local governments need to adopt tougher laws to supplement federal efforts. The Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) is targeting large document fraud rings and the most egregious employers, but their resources are limited and stretched across multiple priorities. In 2007, identity theft cases represented only 7 percent of the total ICE case load.

Employers must do their part. They can ensure that they have a legal workforce by using a combination of the federal government’s E-Verify and Social Security Number Verification Service systems and by signing up for the federal government’s IMAGE program or privately conducted audits...

 

Who's doing that?

 

Gasp!!!! Oh , the humanity !!!

 

Charged is sufficient. The Left is still pretty freaked out that they cheated Bernie so they could run the only Democrat Trump could beat. I thought you folks would be further along in coming to grips with the reality of the election, but if anything, you seem more out of sorts than you did at 9 pm on election night.

 

Yes You did post your personal observation and I am sure it is an honest perception. So you you are saying that the government is purposely breaking the law by giving assistance to illegals for anchor babies! So why hasn't some "conservative" investigative "reporters" broken the story? Oh I forgot they are too busy doing Fake stories about Obama tapping and soft shoe, but how about Fox News they are really conservative, right!

People work angles and game the system. I see it at the VA where I volunteer. We have a "clothing store" where homeless and destitute veterans can get free donated clothes. The "store" is next to the department were vonlunteer so I observed the same set of guys come and get clothes over and over. They must be selling the stuff. Also it's always the guys who are supposedly suffering from PTSD. Yes I am speculating as you are. But at least these guys are Veterans who are registered so they are not illegals or not Vets with dishonorable discharge.

 

Who said I was harboring I worked with and no they weren't hires for the company I worked for our trade took some intelligence
I was referring to the painters sheet rock hangers and day laborers cleaning up construction waste

 

Again, no president has approved of "mass deportations." That would be, i.e., calling for the summary deportation of 11 million men, women, and children with no regard to their individual circumstances (length of residency, birthplace, US military service, steady employment, no criminal record, etc.)

My attitude toward illegal immigrants is in line with the vast majority of Americans: http://pollingreport.com/immigration.htm

 

If you are opposed to summary mass deportations, without regard to whether the individuals targeted have been convicted of felonies, we concur.

 

They have. I have already supplied you all the proof. Stop rejecting it and admit you made a mistake. It's ok, you didn't know. Move on.

 

I'm really not interested in that "Left" about whom you obsess. Anyone who has not been convicted of a crime is presumed innocent, of course.

 

False. You cannot cite a single president ever calling for a summary mass deportation.

 

Oh no someone is hungry in America??? That should never happen. It's up to the taxpayers to fund a new meals program for non-citizen residents.