Breaking : Numerous people shot outside UK Parliament .....

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  1. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

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    Well, Israel is condemned by more UN Resolutions than every other country combined- and is in serious breach of international law. All countries should refuse to recognize Israeli passports- until Israel complies with the same laws that all countries have to abide by.
    No free passes for Israeli Jews. Enough is enough.
     
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  2. unbiased institute

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    The citizens are not responsible for the actions of their government. Most Israelis I've met would, much like the Arabs want to live in peace but unfortunately the Israel-Arab conflict is a cyclical conflict fuelled by each others perceptions.

    As far as this attack in London is concerned no country is immune from terrorism and its not completely preventable. It also reminds me of a similar incident a few years ago where a guy drove his car into a crowd in front of the Queen of the Netherlands and everyone just forgot about it. Funny thing is that the attacker was a born and bred Dutchman
     
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  3. Montegriffo

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    Hmmm, I think I'm going to need an explanation of how it is completely preventable.
    While there are people who wish to use violence to obtain their goals (always have been and always will be) it seems to be a bold claim.......
     
  4. moon

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    That may well be true of the Israelis that you've met- but polls in Israel consistently show that the Jewish population favors neoZionist policies to the detriment of the Palestinians.
    On the other hand- the Israelis you've met could simply be concealing their true beliefs.
     
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  5. unbiased institute

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    Sorry. A slight typo I meant to say its not completely preventable. Slightly drunk as well.
     
  6. unbiased institute

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    To be frank most of the Israelis I've come in contact with are from the younger generation who don't seem to have the same stomach for war as previous generations did. To be honest if you met me in person you'd realise just how comfortable people feel when they talk to me about their politics etc.
     
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    How did they escape the draft ?
     
  8. Montegriffo

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    I did wonder, shame I was rather looking forward to the solution to 1000s of years of terrorism. Although I'm sure that some would suggest the removal of all Muslims from the world would do it.:alcoholic:
     
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    This is the full theme-song ("Who Do You Think You Are Kidding, Mr Hitler?") for classic BBC comedy "Dad's ...
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I understand now why Mr. Hitler was reluctant to send German troops to the British mainland. Thanks.
     
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    Six hundred thousand openly advocating Sharia in a community of 3 million is a lot, that's a fifth or 20% who advocate death by impalement for homosexuals, honor killings, child brides, mutilation for theft, stoning adulterers (if female). Such beliefs are intolerable in western society.

    Muslims in the west know the society around them doesn't support Sharia and in fact repudiates such views, it is safe to figure some Muslims would not openly express their support for Sharia when asked, especially if by a non-Muslim. I suspect a bit more than a fifth of Muslims in the west support Sharia.

    Muslims seeking to immigrate to western countries ought to be asked about their support for Sharia and those who openly endorse it banned. Sharia is plainly incompatible with western society.
     
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  12. Montegriffo

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    The Sharia law practised by some parts of the British Muslim community is a form of family law court for the purpose of arbitrating marital disputes and the like. It has little to do with the abhorrent practises you mention so the 600,000 figure bandied about is a misleading one often exploited by those who believe there is no such thing as a moderate Muslim.
    If a survey were to ask if British Muslims advocate death by impalement for homosexuals, honour killings, child brides, mutilation for theft or stoning adulterers the figure would be much smaller.
    In fact if you were to ask the same question to some of the more fundamental Christian sects in the US you might well get a lot of affirmative answers too.......
     
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    His initial 'reluctance' stemmed from his conviction that Britain might eventually side with him. He did, however, have a plan in place for the invasion of the British mainland (Operation Sealion), which ultimately came to nothing after the defeat of the Luftwaffe over Southern England in the Summer of 1940, and our consequent resumption of air superiority over the English Channel. No air cover for his invasion barges, no invasion. We were lucky though, it was, as the Duke of Wellington said after the Battle of Waterloo, 'a damn near-run thing'.
     
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  14. Montegriffo

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    Home advantage came into play in the Battle of Britain as it did in 1966 but we digress.........:wink:
     
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    The Qur'an (Q9:29 for one) says to rule over us non-Muslims - Mohammad never intended for, say Jews, to live as equals to Muslims.
     
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    Ehm ... investigate better, before writing such nonsense! Otherwise I must think that truth is not liked by you and ignored if uncomfortable for own mind!
     
  17. truth and justice

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    His first attempt at murder was when he was a "Christian" and his name at the time was Adrian Elms. He learnt all he needed to know from his "Christian" upbringing
     
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    You'll do them a favour, I bet you drill down their heads about America actions every time you see them :)
     
  19. Mandelus

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    It is impossible to prevent 100% ... Any terrorist can try a million times to make an attack and must be only 1 time successful. Any security service must be aware to prevent any try of a terrorist. You can only make it with a bunch of things and tactics as much as difficult that such a terror attempt comes through your "defense net" and is successful.

    And one point is always forgotten in this silly "Anti Islam hype": The attacks does not only come from the Islamist scum, but also from Neo-Nazis, Far lefties and Many other groups.
     
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    Wrong! The Koran does not say this! There are many examples in Koran which disproof this!
    And also I clearly showed an example for bad translating which changed the complete meaning of a Sure in Islam which is so liked to be taken as example that Muslims hate us and Koran teach them to do so ... Sure 5.52:

    "O you believe! Do not take the Jews and the Christians as friends. They are friends against each other. And whosoever of you shall take them as friends, he is one of them."

    Woops the Islam haters think to have an example found. Beeep! Wrong! A bad translation mistake was done due to the translations of translation chaos. The original text is:

    "O you who believe, do not take the Jews and the Christians as protectors! They are one of the other patrons. And whosoever shall take them as protectors, he is one of them. Certainly, Allah does not guide the unjust people"

     
  21. Montegriffo

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    Yup,
    To explain his rather puzzling claim.

    I agree, when news of the Quebec Mosque shooting hit another forum I frequent claims went around unchecked about two disgruntled gay Muslims being responsible until the fact that it was a far right white nationalist who was actually arrested for the crime was released.
    It is also noticeable that lone mass shooters in schools, theatres, churches and shopping malls can be mentally ill individuals while attacks by European born Muslims are always part of an Islamic immigrant plot to conquer Europe and subject it to Sharia law and perpetrate genocide on it's Christian majority.
     
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    Then why not point out any errors and the truth?
     
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    Then it seems he didn't have adequate training from a Christian teacher and his first successful attempt was as a Muslim. Have you seen members of any other faith or belief deliberately running down pedestrians except Muslims?
     
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    Perhaps that's because Muslim leaders have said that's what they are going to do, though that part about 'genocide' may be of your own making.
     
  25. unbiased institute

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    Looks like I was right. Khalid Masood acted on his own according to the beeb
     

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