Breaking : Numerous people shot outside UK Parliament .....

Some people might say your conclusion sounds rather idiotic.
First of all as Adrian Elms he wasn’t attending a Sunday mass nor was he going to a church. Not a practicing Christian. But as Khalid Massood he was regularly visiting a mosque and actively participating in Muslim religious services.
In summary, as a non practicing Christian, he killed no one. As a practicing Sunni Muslim he killed four people and injured many more. Can you see the difference?

 

Yeah..Because he acted on his own the British government now demands from WhatsApp the backdoor access. How predictable!

UK Home Secretary Demands WhatsApp Backdoor From People Who 'Understand The Necessary Hashtags'

https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawo...derstand-the-necessary-hashtags/#8df7cac2df46

Britain's home secretary, Amber Rudd, has demanded that companies such as WhatsApp should be forced to give the security services a backdoor, saying it's 'completely unacceptable' that terrorists should be able to communicate in secret.

 

None of the leaders of any of the main Muslim organisations in Europe have said any such thing, in fact the British Muslim Council and all other such organisations have roundly condemned these kind of atrocities and said ''not in my name''.
You really need to stop basing your opinion of Muslims on what leaders of fanatical Islamic organisations such as ISIS say. It's not like anyone accuses all Christians of thinking ''God hates F#gs'' just because of what the a fanatical church in the US shouts loudly every time they get in front of a TV camera.

 

Yes, of course. Just another 'Lone Wolf' incident by someone with mental health issues and poor driving skills which is all entirely unrelated, again, to Islam. The stats on Muslim attacks will therefore remain unchanged.

Would the BBC lie?

 

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HMG has a point.

 

But you said he acted on his own. Was he talking to himself?

 

Well do you have proof that Masood was ordered by a religious figure such as an Imam to murder people?

Well no because they would breach their own charter.

 

He could have been talking to anybody and not necessarily a terrorist organisation

 

Yes, it is governments over reacting to the hysterical outcry from ill informed panic monkeys which is the real threat to our democracies.

 

Why are you restricting yourself to Europe when Islamism is an international problem? And what does the US have to do with attacks on innocents in Europe? If Europeans could focus more on what Muslims are saying and doing there, and the attacks they're committing, perhaps people such as yourself would take them more seriously. The world does not revolve around the US.

Here's just one of many speeches made by Islamic leaders, and you really should pay attention if you want a broader understanding of the problem.

 

I'm quite happy to assert that the Majority of Muslim leaders world wide are opposed to this sort of violence and state that it is not done in their name. The reason I restricted my comment to European leaders is because it is the attacks on Europe and specifically the UK that this thread is about.
I have absolutely no need to watch a radical preacher inciting violence to know that such men exist however you need to learn that the majority of Muslim leaders do not endorse these kind of beliefs to understand that not only do moderate Muslims exist but that they are in the majority, especially those Muslims who were born in or chose to live in our Western democracies.

 

maybe he couldnt get his hands on a RAF fighter jet??

 

You've GOT to be kidding !

 

white racists hate brevik. i dont know why

 

So you feel that not all Muslims are terrorists? Not a terribly original thought.

Then why mention th US? Why not other countries as well? Other European countries may provide some interesting comparisons.

Of course they exist and of course, being a European leftist, you will ignore them, preferring to cite those like the Westboro Church instead. You don't even know who was making the speech, nor the time frame involved and its strategy. Instead you prefer to shift the topic to the USA. It's become so very predictable.

 

No, I'm not. Read and learn. http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/22/world/vehicles-as-weapons/

 

As should anyone who values human life. Do you like the guy?

 

You make an awful lot of false assumptions about me.
How about trying to respond to the things I say rather than the things you think I believe.

 

You've already demonstrated that you won't read links which foresaw what's happening in Europe (and will continue to happen) and that, like many Europeans and Muslims who debate, you'd prefer to divert the subject to the United States. How can anyone debate if you don't want to inform yourself of the greatest movement in our time and you choose to discuss the US rather than the topic at hand?

 

I agree with you that bad translations from Arabic to other languages could destroy the great word of the almighty creator - that would be bad. So can we both agree that if you and I had god's supposed all-powerful skills (and cared for humanity the way they claim he does), that sometime in the last 1400 years we'd have come down and educated people as to what the real, true, accurate translation should be? Seems like the proper and loving thing to do. Can we agree that we'd have done that, Mandelus? If not, then one of us cares about humanity more than the other one, and the one that cares less for humanity might want to check out the belief system of the other one.
Have a great week.

 

People setting up networks where terrorists can easily plan deadly attacks with impunity and w/out ever being detected is "over reacting"!? You clearly don't understand that we are at war with Islam.

 

Ah, but you didn't deny his assumption about you, now did you....I think he nailed you.

 

You're playing fast and loose w/our security (the security of innocent people). Not wise.

 

Mohammad in the Islamic texts is all the reason he needed. 72 virgin reward (and the HIGHEST place in Jannah, no less!) for fighting for Islamic Law as a Jihadist. Not to mention the rivers of wine, the young boys to, uh, well, you know, and getting to be with Mohammad - the greatest example that any Muslim could ever hope to emulate. Mohammad was also a Jihadist, so he's simply EMULATING his #1 hero of all time. Non-Muslims admire, say, LeBron, but Muslims admire a pedophile/warlord/rapist/enslaver who obviously didn't know right from wrong (sure, he knew the local customs, but didn't understand right from wrong.)