The 4 issues of self defense with your CFP

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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    I would say from my experience it does, but practice enough you develop a sort of intuition that emerges from somewhere, that and once you've lost your virginity the first time, it seems that first overwhelming adrenaline rush is mitigated significantly and you react faster than you'd think possible. The second time is never like the first.
     
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    I think people need to think about brain freeze when first hit with an intense situation. It's all good at the shoot in range, but when someone's breaking in your window reactions may vary. Internalizing the maneuvers where you don't have to think about the steps..cocking, safety,...I would think crucial.
     
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    If you hear your window breaking at home, then you need to figure that someone is trying to get in, or someone is playing baseball, or someone just threw a rock.

    Either way, I would grab my 45ACP from under my pillow, grab an LED mini flashlight from beside my bed, and start low crawling to the room where the sound came from.

    Low crawling keeps your target area small and low to the ground.

    If you see a human figure, I would I/D it first with the light to make sure it is not a lost Playboy bunny, or a relative, and if not either then I would put 2 rounds through the chest, shooting low to high for the benefit of my immediate neighbors.

    The purpose of drill is to make your reactions automatic.

    And yes, I have practiced this.

    My cat goes bonkers every time I do.
     
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    Armchair warriors ???
    Couch Commandoes ?
    Call of Duty Soldiers ???
    lol
    I think back on the times that the rule book went out the window, too many times the enemy refuses to go by the blarsted book !!!!
     
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    1- Always treat a firearm as if it is loaded and cocked, even when the safety is on.
    2- Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire.
    3- Never point a firearm at anything you arent willing to destroy.
    4- Be sure of your target *and whats behind it.*

    So long as you follow these rules (and expand them to more specific situations like #3 and ensuring your target is actually a threat, or #4 and training so you can hit what you aim at) a firearm can only make you more prepared for any situation despite your skill level or speed.

    Perhaps I misunderstood OP, but I think the notion that you need to be an expert to benefit from being armed (drawing and firing accurately in a split second *is* expert) is rediculous. While its true (obviously) that the faster, more knowledgable, more perceptive and more accurate you are, the higher your chance of survival... merely having a firearm and being able to use it *at all* in a safe manner gives you an edge that you wouldn't have without it.

    Its *also* true that without a degree of training, familiarity and caution, a firearm could instead be a liability (like if you draw but dont fire and your opponent takes your gun, or if you shoot yourself while drawing the weapon, or if you shoot an innocent person), but even novices should be able to avoid these mistakes.

    Firearms are not just for the pros. They are for average joes from every walk of life, every skill level, every physical ability level to be able to better protect themselves.
     
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    no plan ever survives contact with the enemy
     
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    I recommend pepper spray.
     
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    I will stick with my .45
     
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    Not a bad idea. But def keep ur firearm as backup.
     
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    Pepper spray can often in high wind end up affecting both parties.
     
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    My backup is Bear Spray.
     
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    You have to know the characteristics of the defense you choose.
     
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    Bear spray is weaker.
     
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    Bad idea.
     
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    I did, at the Police training center, I volunteered to get sprayed with the good stuff.
    They did not account for really high wind in the wrong direction.
     
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    Pepper spray and bear spray are fine for girlies that don't like guns and do like hairspray.
     
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    It shoots further and can get a whole group. It is the shotgun of pepper sprays. Additionally, I believe it may be stronger--it is not supposed to be used on humans, but IMO circumstances alter cases. If I had a gang coming after me I would definitely use it if I had to.
     
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    Watch your mouth.
     
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    So I was right you ARE a girlie.

    Hairspray is ok for your hair but spray anything is not good for defending you life.
     
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    I like my Glock 17 spray...
    lol
    It sprays 9mm..... lol
     
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    Anything is better than nothing, and I know I would not actually shoot someone, so guns are worthless to me.

    Pepper spray, I could do.

    No, you weren't right. I just know my limits. If I had hairspray I would probably resort to that if my pepper spray ran out though---also insect spray, etc etc. Some of them might not be very healthy at all, but at least they won't make someone leave bloodstains all over the place. Bottled lemon juice or vinegar might also be useful in a spray bottle. Chlorine, even, although that's pretty toxic.
     
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    It can, that's for sure. It depends on how much dedication one puts into their training, practicing enough to make the motions automatic. I once read that it takes 3000 repetitions for something to become automatic.
     
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    No thank you. I prefer maintaining my ability to move effectively. Shots fired low and into the floor tend to ricochet right into you if you're laying on the ground.

    Okay, that's a mental image that got a laugh out of me!
     
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    Just remember -- and they should have covered this in elementary school --

    - if you're laying then you're a chicken, because chickens lay;

    - humans lie not lay.

    Lying on the ground vs laying on the ground is a common grammatical error.

    I have found that for very close quarters such as in a small one bedroom single story flat that the low crawl position affords you the most safety if someone is already in your home.

    Similarly soldiers involved in a firefight are not going to be standing tall either, they are going to be on the ground where it is safe.

    Infantry school teaches this, for individual movement. I guess I am just more comfortable with it than a civilian would be.

    Watch out for that laying problem though.

    :D
     
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    Well not everyone is cut out to shoot.

    Quakers don't. And haven't for centuries.
     
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