Is the press bullying the President?

It isn't just Mueller. While it appears that at least a few people are going to jail, impeachment doesn't require that Trump has engaged in illegal activities. The Constitution only specifies that he SHALL be impeached for illegal activities. It is a requirement but not a limitation.

The point being, barely skirting illegal activities on a technicality does not guarantee immunity from impeachment. And since this is how Trump operates it comes to mind.

 

Yes they're bullying him but he's the president so he should be able to handle it. If he can't handle the press than he can't handle Russia, Iran and North Korea. The press has only words, those nations have bombs. I don't want to hear any crying from our president about the press picking on him. I didn't want to hear it from president Obama and I don't want to hear it from president Trump.

I'm with you there. On this forum I've found myself defending Trump more than I (an independent who didn't vote for him) thought I ever could. He's a goofball but HE'S MY PRESIDENT! Seeing the left try to impeach him based on fabricated nonsense just pisses me off.
If the FBI finds he committed a crime, then fine go after him. But the left isn't waiting for the FBI. They are saying he's guilty based on nothing but their hate for him.
Trump won in a fair election and the left is trying to impeach him simply because they don't like him.

If Clinton had won and the republicans tried to impeach her over nonsense issues I would have defended her too.

 

Crazy, paranoid rant noted ... "Democrats - bad - rant - rant - soft drinks - Swiffer - rant - rant ..." Whatever.

 

Thanks for the block quote, gets the word out to more rational adults.

 

It also makes good reading for psychiatric studies of paranoid delusion ...

 

What a pathetic attempt at turd polishing.

 

Correct. Every world leader in recent history has been subject to being attacked by the media. Trump is no different, but he is too stupid to understand that his infantile reactions are manna from heaven for the press. Attacking them was a very, very stupid thing to do. The media have both made and broken politicians far stronger than him.

 

Truth in media, not something liberals value.

 

Which I condemned also.

 

Trump bullies MSM by constantly calling them fake news and block their access, but Trump's ill behavior goes far beyond just his treatment of MSM.

I don't believe anyone who looks at behavior of Trump and MSM objectively would feel sympathy for Trump or even cast a vote for him.

 

Yes, it is outrageous that President Trump does not treat the MSM like Clinton did by refusing to hold any press conferences and roping them off to keep them away from him.

 

Among Democratic Party's minions is a massive number of people suitable for psychiatric study of paranoid delusion.

 

I see you don't think very highly of the american electorate. Essentially, you describe them as morons who don't understand anything about politics and will just gravitate towards Trump out of pity for him.

Can't say I disagree with you on that point. After all, if the american electorate had any sense overall, nobody would have voted for either Hillary or Trump.

 

No, I guess I don't. I voted for Johnson out of despair; our best people are in the upper echelons of business, like Rex Tillerson, and they have better sense than to run for president.

 

Although we might imagine a different and more utopian reality, The media is an extension of the entertainment industry. They get paid and are profitable based on delivering eyeballs. They can deliver those eyeballs by "reporting" on car crashes, fires, terrorism, or even suspicious political shenanigans.

For this reason it is unsurprising that the media are indulging in blood sport with president trump. That is what they do to make money and advance their career. And in that respect, how trump is treated is not remarkably different from any other president.

Except, we know there is a difference. The media is energetically piling on trump.

But why is that? Well, yes, in many cases the are biased against him. But..... we all know it is more than that. Trump got himself elected by attacking the existing power structure... especially the media. Should we be surprised that those who are attacked dislike those who attack them?

Sure he makes mistakes. But, his job is not trimming shrubs and cutting a wrong branch. He has an EXTREMELY responsible position where you want to avoid mistakes. And, after all he did sell himself to us as being extraordinary competent. So it is not unreasonable to hold to the standard he promised us.

And further... it is one thing to make mistakes as we all do. But it is a different thing entirely to make a whopper of a mistake, an obvious mistake, then to deny that it is a mistake, and claim that those who point out this mistake are engaging in "fake" news

I see no reasonable arguement that trump has not caused, and exacerbated much of the criticism he is getting. And that he seems completely unwilling to accept that his impulsive tweeting is damaging his presidency. He is tweeting all by himself without any media conspiracy or bias against him

He could stop tweeting, he could take the advice of professionals, he could stop lying (unless you think that obama was born in Kenya, that cruz father conspired with lee Harvey Oswald, that there were 5 million illegal votes, that NATO is obsolete, that he will pay off the national debt while cutting taxes and increasing defense and infrastructure spending, or that Mexico will pay for a border wall....etc etc etc ad nauseum.

 

Yours is the best post in the thread. But I don't like people who are smarter than I am. So go away.

 

Yeah and if you don't win any seats then maybe you will realize how disconnected the left/liberals really is with a lot of Americans who feel they are being ignored. Everyone has a voice that wants to be heard and the left chooses to only hear the ones it agrees with or gets them votes. Until the left starts caring about all Americans it is going to have problems. You could gain seats in some states but the swing states won't support you just because of what Trump says or does. If that was the case they would have voted for Hillary. They have problems and if you want their votes you need to connect with them. That is the biggest problem the Democratic party has right now. Gaining seats will be difficult if the left does not work out it's problems.

 

We had every right to look into Benghazi. I still believe that is messed up. The whole birther thing was not that big of a deal for most American's. At Least not where I live. The Tea Party I saw had peaceful protests on the sides of the road. That is nothing to the violent ones the left has had. Fox News was in my opinion pretty fair of Obama. Compared to CNN against Trump which has over 90% negative stuff.

Trump is not stepping aside. Nothing he has done is severe enough to even impeach him yet.

 

Of course you think Fox News was "pretty fair to Obama."

 

Study from US News and World Report in 2009, shows that only 25% of Fox news reports on President Obama were positive in his 2nd 100 days - which was up from 21% in the first 100 days. Overall, only 43% of ALL press coverage of Obama was positive in the 2nd 100 days.

So the problem isn't that the press is being so tough on little, sensitive Mr. Trump - the problem is that Trump FanBoys have short f**king memories.

 

I watched Fox News. I did not see negative ads constantly ran on the network. Even still Fox is only a single network. How many are against Trump? Just about ALL of them. So the right was still more fair to Obama then the left is towards Trump.

 

Even if that is true it is still just one news agency compared to the many that are against Trump. That just proves the left is still not as fair as the right is. Obama was a bad president and we let him off easy for most of the stupid stuff he did.

 

That's pretty funny. Think he had a straight face when he typed that?

 

Keep the thinly disguised vulgarisms out of the thread, please.

The press can be as "tough" as they like. Just don't be surprised if, assuming Mueller clears Trump, that the press, which has manifestly failed to engage in the introspection they all promised after dismissing Trump in November,sinks even lower in the eyes of average voters, who will then punish them by reelecting President Trump.

 

Of course you don't think Trump deserves any of the scrutiny...right?

Poor Little Hands Trump huh?