"Let Obama Care Fail" says Trump

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  1. Capt Nice

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    1. Trump can let it fail, do financial and physical harm to thousands of American people and the two parties can work it out.
    2. Trump can keep it temporarily alive, do little harm to American people and the two parties can work it out.

    Trump is so unstable that I doubt any one can predict what his choice will be.
     
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    what we had was a disaster
     
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    Are they this desperate and stupid? Lol! But of course they are. Silly me!
     
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    What "they" had was no HC.
     
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    Neither does he.
     
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    C-a needs to allow for age specific also, or or opt-out. Many older citizens don't need birth-control, or pre-natal, just to name 2 items.

    C-b needs to include removal of the medical device tax, & allow for negotiated pricing on those as well

    Tort reform a MUST.
     
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    And common sense doesn't award you a seat at the donor orgy either.
     
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    If you call expanding Medicaid to the states then that would be the wrong call. Single payer? Doesn't work very well. Trump just wants something to get done. These Republicans are a bunch of woozies. If they want to act like Democrats then throw them out of office. They are not ready to lead.
     
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    Let them pass it off to Democrats. It will go single payer/medicare for all.
     
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    Trump is covering his ass:
    1. He has made numerous proposals - rejected by Congress - all Democrats and 4-5 Republicans.
    2. He has proposed repealing ObamaCare - rejected by Congress - all Democrats and 4-5 Republicans.

    He has done all he can by executive order.

    If ObamaCare does collapse, it lands on the Democrats and those 4-5 Republicans.

    Republican Senators such as Rand Paul can accurately be called a supporter of ObamaCare.
     
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    Raise the taxes on the rich and give everyone full health care.
     
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    ACA is and has been a hot potato since its induction.
     
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    ACA is a failure even if reformed with its major characteristics. Democrats wanted it to fail from the very beginning (democrats use chaos as a means of power), so they could introduce single payer as the ultimate solution.
     
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    Hilarious. WE want to resist till Trump fails, so we can replace him, and Trump calls us UNAMERICAN, then he ways, make Obamacare fail, so we can replace it, and he is a hero.

    HYPOCRACY.
     
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    Bullshit. Insurance companies were pulling out two years ago long before Trump was even the candidate. Your pathetic plan is collapsing and the only people to blame are you and the Democrats you support. You are the reason that people are getting hurt, you and only you are to blame for Obamacare's mess.
     
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    ACA is bankrupting America
    Democrats building it to internally fail is much more nefarious than what he said.
     
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    Interesting logic. If Obama care fails it falls on the Democrats? No, the dems favor fixing and have said that over and over again, but to no avail. That lame excuse that they promised to repeal and replace was made on their "fake" premise that Obama care was imploding and was going poof. I am sure that Trump is doing all he can to make that happen, since he doesn't want Obama to get credit for anything. It is already the law, and all these gyrations are unnecessary, when it can be fixed. Insurance companies checked out due to uncertainty and lack of reimbursement for services rendered. Include the dems in a bipartisan way and get it on already. How about
    them doing what is best for us?
     
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    YES!
     
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    The Democrats built this sewage plant known as the ACA. Let it fail, and let the streets become as Calcutta overflowing with ****. Make them own it.
     
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    I believe the right decision was for the House and Senate to reintroduce the 2015 bill that repealed the so-called reconciliation portion of ObamaCare. If that bill was able to pass both chambers in 2015, it should have been able to pass both chambers this year as well.

    By not following through on what was already accomplished in 2015, the Republicans betrayed the trust of every voter that put them in the majority over the last 8 years. It was a classic "bait and switch" betrayal.

    ObamaCare will not fail on its own. Instead, its myriad of regulations, taxes, mandates, subsidies, and other mindless impositions will continue to plague this country until a stake is finally driven through its heart.

    It was the silly "repeal and replace" mantra that was dead from the get-go, and it was the "replace" part that killed it.
     
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    if Trump chooses to do things to make ObamaCare fail, he will be blamed for its failure.
     
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    Incrementally lowering the Medicare eligibility age progressively introduces lower-cost demographics into the risk pool, uses the existing system to which nearly all providers already subscribe, advantages economy of scale, cuts out all the exorbitant executive salaries, profit margins, commissions, advertising, marketing, and political lobbying budgets, employee payrolls and other compensation, infrastructure expenses, etc., renders unnecessary the $250 billion tax write-off that sustains employee-administered plans freeing private enterprise from the bureaucratic burden it imposes, eliminates the need for the taxpayer to foot the bill for the bloated medical costs incurred by the uninsured. And, if the politicians would free Medicare to negotiate Rx prices with Big Pharma, it would have enormous power to lower them so that Americans would pay as little if not less as folks in advanced nations.

    Of course, boutique, unsubsidized coverage could still be available to ideologues who would prefer the free market approach if they and their family members are deemed insurable.
     
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    The ACA requires no help to fail.
     
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    It would be more likely for Trump, McConnell, and Ryan to blame Democrats for their impotence, and then take credit for single-payer as that promised, legendary "something terrific!" TrumpĀ®Care that covers "everybody!"

    The Mar-a-Lago Messiah would be as happy as a pig in succotash if the hapless GOP Congress could pass wind.
     
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