Why do liberals think its so terrible to live in a white country?

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  1. Brewskier

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    The article actually says the opposite of what you claim:

    E-M215 is a grouping of genes, not a specific gene. Which one are you referring to that is "MOST common in black Africans"?
     
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    If by "left-wing" this is a reference to "liberal" then that's correct because it was advocated by the Classical Liberals that founded the United States including Jefferson, Madison, and Washington.

    So yes, it's been a "liberal conspiracy" to allow people from all nations (regardless of racial demographics) and all religions to immigrate to the United States, become Americans, and to vote in our elections for the last 249 years since the Declaration of Independence was written.

    It's the "right-wing" conservatives that oppose the ideology that America was founded upon and not the "left-wing" liberals.
     
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    E-M215 and E-M35 are quite common among Afroasiatic speakers. The linguistic group and carriers of E-M35 lineage have a high probability to have arisen and dispersed together from the Afroasiatic Urheimat

    The following table only includes sample populations with more than 1% E-M215 men with all known subclades as of June 2015.

    The E-M215 haplogroup has two ancient branches that contain all the known modern E-M215, E-M35 and E-M281 subclades. Of the latter two, the only branch that has been confirmed in a native population outside of Ethiopia is E-M35. E-M35 in turn has two known branches, haplogroup E-V68 and haplogroup E-Z827, which contain by far the majority of all modern E-M215 carrying males. E-V68 and E-V257 have been found at highest frequencies in North Africa and the Horn of Africa, but also at lower percentages in parts of the Middle East and Europe, and in isolated populations of Southern Africa.
     
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    Your link shows the most common "Afroasiatic" language is Arabic. Again, where's your evidence that this gene is mostly in black Africans? Did you make that up?
     
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    look at the table.

    Eastern Africa

    Eastern Africa
    Tigre 5 Eritrea AA/Semitic 100.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 60.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 20.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 20.0 0.0

    Nara 15 Eritrea NS/Sudanic 60.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 6.7 0.0 13.3 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 13.3 6.7 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 13.3 0.0 6.7 0.0

    Cunama 20 Eritrea NS/Cunama 65.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 5.0 0.0 20.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 5.0 0.0 0.0 5.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 15.0 10.0 5.0 0.0

    Saho 94 Eritrea AA/Cushitic 98.9 0.0 0.0 0.0 1.1 0.0 88.3 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 1.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 8.5 0.0

    Tigrai 32 Eritrea/Ethiopia AA/Semitic 71.9 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 3.1 3.1 21.9 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 3.1 3.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 31.3 6.3 0.0

    Afar 25 Djibouti AA/Cushitic 60.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 56.0 0.0

    Somali 40 Djibouti AA/Cushitic 25.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 25.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0

    Ethiopian Jews 22 Ethiopia AA/Cushitic 31.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 9.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 13.6 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 9.1 0.0 0.0 0.0

    Amhara 82 Ethiopia AA/Semitic 45.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2.4 0.0 11.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 13.4 0.0 0.0 2.4 0.0 1.2 0.0 0.0 1.2 0.0 8.5 4.9

    Oromo 62 Ethiopia AA/Cushitic 53.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 22.6 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4.8 0.0 0.0 17.7 0.0 0.0 1.6 0.0 3.2 0.0 1.6 1.6

    Wolayta 12 Ethiopia AA/Omotic 58.3 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 8.3 0.0 8.3 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 8.3 0.0 0.0 8.3 0.0 0.0 8.3 0.0 0.0 0.0 16.7 0.0

    Somali 12 Ethiopia AA/Cushitic 50.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 8.3 0.0 25.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 16.7 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0

    Gurage 7 Ethiopia AA/Semitic 42.9 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 28.6 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 14.3 0.0

    Somali 5 Somalia AA/Cushitic 100.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 80.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 20.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0

    Turkana 6 Kenya NS/Sudanic 50.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 33.3 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 16.7 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0

    Borana 9 Kenya AA/Cushitic 77.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 66.7 0.0 0.0 11.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
    Somali 6 Kenya AA/Cushitic 100.0
     
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    Which gene, specifically? You're point to a grouping of genes not a specific one.
     
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    E-M215
     
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    Oh I see - you are admitting that the OP is totally wrong (while making another unsupported assumption).

    Thank you.
     
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    Funny how Reagan and Bush II are called "liberals" by right wingers when it suits them. As we all know it was these two clowns who allowed in all those illegals and then sought to grant them amnesty.
     
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    The article does not support your argument. Do you even bother reading your own sources? You claimed that this gene is mostly in black Africans, when the source says:

    North Africa is not where black people came from.
     
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    the table shows north east black africans as having the highest percentages of E-M215.
     
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    No it doesn't. And, like I have stated, "haplogroup" doesn't indicate what race someone is.
     
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    the table clearly shows that the populations with the highest percentages of E-M215 are in east africa.


    go ahead, deny it again

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    That doesn't mean the majority of them are black Africans like you tried to argue. "Haplogroups" are based on location, not racial composition. Tens of thousands of years ago the groups in those locations were not black. Sub-Saharan Africa is where black Africans originated from, and it's no surprise that this gene you are pointing to that has significant distribution in Europe is very rare in Sub-Saharan Africa. It's not present at all in areas where most blacks originated from in this picture.

    Jews like to tell white people that they are actually black. This helps their agenda.
     
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    you are lying, again.

    Its clear from the data that the populations with the highest concentrations of E-M215 are in Eastern Africa. This haplogroup is of African origin

    and many Euro populations have decent concentrations of this haplogroup, which was spread during the Roman Empire and other migrations.

    don't be offended.
     
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    Your argument was that this haplogroup is mostly comprised of black Africans, and you haven't substantiated that argument. "Haplogroups" are based on location, not race.
     
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    my argument is that this haplogroup is black African in origin, which is proved by the table.

    many Europeans possess this haplogroup, which shows that many Europeans have some black African ancestry.
     
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    Nope. You've reached the wrong conclusion, likely on purpose.
     
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    the studies themselves state that this haplogroup, which is African in origin, is possessed by many Europeans

    what info do you have to refute these studies?
     
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    "African" does not necessarily mean black African, as I have explained. You have misunderstood your own source and added in arguments that are not supported.
     
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    folks in the Horn of Africa, such as Somalia and Ethiopia, are black.

    [​IMG]
     
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    They weren't tens of thousands of years ago when these haplogroups were originated.
     
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    Ron, please stop feeding the troll.
     
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    the genetic evidence says you're wrong.

    white skin is due to a gene mutation that's tens of thousands of years old.
     

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