NFL says Trump's "divisive" comments "demonstrate an unfortunate lack of respect for the NFL

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  1. micfranklin

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    If you think coercing them to stand and show respect will fix it, you're wrong. If you have compel obedience or patriotism, then it's not real.
     
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    The NFL will fine players and coaches for some really silly things, like wearing the wrong shoes or socks to criticizing a ref's call in the media. They go through great lengths to protect their brand but now Goodell is in a tough spot because he took a position which is tarnishing that brand and it's possibly costing them money. If it is costing them a significant amount of money Goodell will be forced to punish something he once defended in order to keep the cash flowing.

    I think we all know what would happen should there ever be a situation where an American player refuses to stand for the Mexican national anthem, it would get real ugly real fast. And what about the Olympics? Will athletes not stand for our anthem after winning medals? Will they stand for Russia's anthem to protest their alleged influence in our elections? The left is all about not offending anyone yet here they are defending offending millions of Americans. Where does this nonsense end?
     
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    While I don't agree with the sitting, it is their right, and I don't think it would be legal to fire them for exercising their right.
     
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    Football is dying. From the concussion thing to the race baiting. Less people are watching. I quit watching baseball in 91 when they went on strike and that's when I got into football. Maybe they'll bring back the gladiator pits.
     
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    I always thought a big part of what they fought for was the freedom of expression, even for those you disagree with. You don’t have to like or agree with someone who kneels during the anthem, but we shouldn’t compel them to, or fire them if they don’t.
     
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    Brewskier, I’m sorry I forgot to ask earlier in the summer, how was your march on Charlottesville?
     
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    Remove all black athletes from the next Olympics and see how well this country does.
     
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    Ironic that if you make political statements (symbolic or stated) in public on your employer's time, that there might be consequences.

    That response is ironic. :roll:
     
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    one thing's for sure, the swim team would be fine.
     
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    If a flag and a song are what your family fought for they got it wrong
     
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    bottom line, football is supported by white redneck trump voters.

    and they don't like seeing spoiled black millionaires bitch about the country that made them spoiled black millionaires.
     
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    It doesn't seem to be much of a stretch to interpret the Confederacy as a demonstration against America
     
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    Which, while commendable, shows a complete misunderstanding of what they fought and died for.

    The entire point of freedom in the US is to support the right to criticize, even those institutions most hold sacred.
     
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    I agree with you about the NFL fining players for stupid things but this is a bit of a different story seeing how it's more politically driven. The underlying message for all of this is do we want "not standing up for the national anthem" to be grounds for termination by any employer? Now I get the other side of the argument which will undoubtedly be well if you don't like the policy then don't work there. But this is a touchy subject and I don't want "not supporting America" to be grounds for termination in America. That's almost an oxymoron in my book seeing how this is well...America.

    Now granted I don't agree with these guys AT ALL. I find it completely hypocritical and almost comical that these guys are paid millions of dollars to play a game in AMERICA yet somehow have a problem with America...To me it's like really son? You're in your 20s with a contract to play a game making more money than I will make in my entire lifetime of working yet you have the audacity to be pissed off at the country that provides you the means to do such a thing? It's hilarious to me.

    The NFL will be forced to do something soon, as I said before we the fans have the power in this situation. I personally have ZERO respect for any of these punks who are spitting in the face of our country in this manner, and because of that I refuse to attend NFL games until the league stops acknowledging them. They can do whatever they please, but the NFL and the broadcasting networks and commentators etc are CHOOSING to show them and choosing to talk about them. Until the league choose to stop given them a voice then I will choose to not support their league with my money.

    If we want to force the NFL to stop even acknowledging these players whatsoever then we as fans must stop supporting the NFL until they do so. That is the best way to combat this, and from what I'm seeing it's working.

    Where does it end? No idea, best thing we can do is just counter protest such behavior by not supporting these organizations. Without us there is no them, and they know that. The ball is in our court, not theirs.
     
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    NFL is entertainment. Take your political bullshit elsewhere. NFL will suffer greatly for this and they're too stupid to figure this out.
     
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    "Keeping it real" so to speak.
     
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    I think Jones also had a talk with his players about kneeling and it wasn't a favorable one.

    The NFL is already suffering ratings problems because of that overgrown out of work black racist child that started this crap. Going to war with Trump will only hurt them more. The NFL's base are not a bunch of emotional hate American beta males.
     
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    Calm down the NFL is just entertainment
     
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    If there's no consequence, that's ok. But they just need to be aware there could be a consequence and there is no Constitutional protection from it.
     
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    This is a private company. What part of that do you not understand?

    You are falsely pretending this is a government position when it has nothing to do with rights.
     
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    And why exactly are we supposed to respect a sports league inundated with thugs and criminals?
     
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    This isn't about freedom Cubed. Don't confuse an act made by a private employee with a Constitutional right he can exert in any public square.

    And he has as much of a right to be insulted by the morons who are doing the insulting.
     
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    Perhaps no one in your family have spilt any blood for that flag; many of us have lost such loved ones. It is not that the black players are concerned that America is becoming a police state dedicated to the extinction of black lives and freedom--just a tad exaggeration on their part, but to some extent a legitmate concern--it's that they are attacking the very symbol they need that glorifies their rights as free men. Its not the National Anthem or the American Flag that is threatening them, it is politicians buying their votes to gain political power, and the thieving, raping, assaulting, murdering members of their own race, who are becoming more and more protected from police enforcement when its needed most.

    The protesting players ought to honor both the anthem and the flag, and demand politicians start protecting their rights instead of purchasing and selling political pull. Sadly, I have very little confidence after seeing the actions of the BLM movement, that the black community, or for that matter, most Americans, no matter what their color, are going to recognize the real threat to their rights and liberties, and instead will demand more political pull, and will want more restrictions on police behavior, and instead of getting peace and prosperity, will receive more violence and hatred towards each other.

    There is an answer, Ayn Rand's Objectivism, but its rejection of faith, altruism, and the supernatural have made it unpopular with both the left and right. However, as truth and goodness always wins, eventually, and human beings have free will, there is always a chance we will get back on the right path.

    Best of Wishes

    Ayn Rand: "The issue is not slavery for a “good” cause versus slavery for a “bad” cause; the issue is not dictatorship by a “good” gang versus dictatorship by a “bad” gang. The issue is freedom versus dictatorship."--http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/freedom.html
     
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    ^^Can we ban this fool already?
     
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    How do you feel about people being fired for statements they post on Twitter; on their personal account, on their own time, from their own device?

    Yes, it happens.
     
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