Germany election: Merkel wins fourth term, exit polls say

According to who? You?

 

Thirty6BelowZero, go ahead and deny all you want.

 

Just to make sure I understand you correctly, are you talking about a German user on this forum you are in touch with?
Regarding the open/non open borders, I can confirm this more or less. The borders were quite open in 2015 but that has changed almost completely.

Whether that German friend of yours has nothing nazi about him doesn't represent the AFD in any way. There are several schools of thought within the party and they differ quite a bit. In fact, one of their founding members and most important figures when the party was in its infancy, Bernd Lucke, has nothing to do with nationalist, far right politics. He was and is interested in economics but infightings made him leave the party.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernd_Lucke
The party has moved to the right considerably in the last roughly three years and some members are as far right as you could possibly be within the democratic spectrum; Björn Höcke for example. So, the AFD is not per se a nazi party, but it's most definitely not a 'normal' conservative party either.
Like with most far right parties in post WW II Germany, people in the AFD are very busy being at each other's throat.
Frauke Petry, their most prominent figure, declared today that she won't be a member of their parliamentary group in the new Bundestag, which is something that very rarely happens.

 

He doesn't frequent this forum much, we keep in touch via email. But yeah, he said Merkel opened her borders as an act of humanity in 2015 but when it failed, she more or less said to hell with that image and closed them off. We don't just talk about politics. We talk about history and mysteries and stuff like that. Most of my ancestry is German so it's nice to hear about history we don't learn about here in America.

 

Hmm. Not sure this result gels with "if it ever rises up, the rest of Germany will smash it down". It did rise up. And Germany did the opposite.

BTW, wanting a country not dripping with middle eastern trash is not "Nazi".

 

I suspect the "Nazi" epithet is being randomly sprayed around in the hope someone will listen. I'll go out on a limb and say that there is nothing remotely "Nazi" in their stated aims. I can't see any gain for anyone in adopting anti-Jew (et al) policies.

 

There it is: you could not resist. Try Naziville-at-Munich again and watch what happens.

 

Ah, but anti-Middle East views?

 

Clearly so.

 

Merkel is a former communist. To call her anything near conservative is near delusion.

 

Yeah Germany should be more accepting of people who want to come there for handouts and bomb them/run them over every now and then.

Bunch of racists.

 

No, it's a total denial of reality.

 

Yup.

 

WHAT???

Do you think the conservative party in Germany (CDU) would have put up with her for so long if she was a communist?

Of course, I realize that you just repeat exaggerated talking points fed from right wing talk radio, while they and you know nothing about Merkel and/or Germany.

 

Note that these people came in 2015 because they fled a terrible war, not because they wanted handouts or bomb. I would call people who leave their home country to better their lives actually industrious. If given opportunity, they could contribute a lot. Of course, sitting bored in refugee camps while not being allowed to work quickly defeats the spirit and makes people blame others for their hard life.

It is illuminating, though, to see how you think about refugees. Not surprising, however.

 

No, they fled to Germany, bypassing all the countries that weren't paying as much as Germany.

 

Just a question:

Would you be brave enough to leave your home and country, leave everything behind and start from 0, possibly at the risk of drowning while on the way? If not, then you are in no position to criticize these people.

 

Oh so it's bravery to set out for the country that will give you the most free money.

And yeah, I left my home and country at 18 to go and liberate Kuwait. Been there, done that.

 

While you received your nice benefits at home. It's not the same as leaving everything you have behind.

 

I didn't receive anything. I earned it.

And yes, it is leaving everything behind and not knowing if you'll ever see it again.

 

That was your choice, though. Those people did not really have much of a choice: Stay home and get killed or leave everything behind and possibly die too. And you label them all as terrorists and moochers.

 

Forgive them father for they don't know what they're talking about.
Just can't take this seriously. They way you yanks simplify things until it has nothing to do with reality anymore is amazing.

 

They have plenty of choice. They've been killing each other since 600 AD. This is nothing new.

They're definitely moochers, because they intentionally kept going when they could have stopped and sought shelter in the first country that would take them in. That's not what they did though.

And to thank their hosts, they'll continue to bomb, stab, and kill the local populace. You know it's true, and you also know that as their numbers increase, the problem will only get worse.

 

I'm glad you're doing it.

It's a great history lesson for the rest of us to learn from.

 

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