Ground Invasion Only Way to Destroy North Korea’s Nuclear Arsenal, Pentagon Says

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  1. InanimateCarbonRod

    InanimateCarbonRod Well-Known Member

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    It's just the frigging year it happened, not the epic of the Chosin reservoir. If the OP wants to be taken seriously, the details of the information he provided should at least be accurate.

    I see you absolve any republican administrations of any blame. Very honest of you. Exactly what should have been done about North Korea? You do know that little kim has only been in charge since 2011, right? So I ask, what could have been done? Sanctions? Did that. Pressure on China? Ineffective. Are you advocating war? A ground invasion of the North korean state? Do you have idea the kind of casualties and risks that creates? Do you for a second consider the consequences of such an action? Or, are you prepared to support trump's rhetoric which solves absolutely nothing?

    You don't get to assert that trumpy dump is actually "doing something" about Korea when in fact he's simply running his mouth.
     
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    Why do you think Euros and Canada are spineless ?
     
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    That is what they said. And no NK defector's opinion will change that. lol
     
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    China said they will not avoid a war with the US if it's the US who attacks first. Like it or not. So it's if the US want's to avoid a war with the China, than they can not attack NK first. Period.
     
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    Your assumption that US leaders are pure evil is absurd. Most of the bad things that happen in the world are the result of commun human stupidity and miscalculation. We all suffer from it. Russia, like every other powerful nation state, will never be mistaken for a "good guy".
     
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    Where has the US helped build nuclear power plants?
     
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    You have been told he is a nutcase. And you parrot that when what we actually know of him shows him to be sane. I know this does not serve your beliefs. So, wanting to defend his nation from us, is being a nutcase? No sir. The nutcase would be the opposite of him a village idiot who had no idea of what the US has done in this world, since just 03. I have listened to what he said about what it would take for NK to use nukes and I have read your posts. And he isn't the nutcase here. Nuts are people who refuse to listen to what another nation says and then make up their own reality with help from the people you parrot. IMO
     
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    I think it will be a horrific disaster for the US. A major war launched by the US will transform Trump into the new Lyndon Johnson.
     
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    You only referenced obama and clinton which is what I replied to

    If you demand pinpoint accuracy in others maintain it for yourself also

    I think we should have used our economic leverage with china and our trading partners to cut off mim from the rest of the world

    Starting in 1994 there was time to end the growing threat of nuclear weapons peacefully

    Sanctions were never pursued strongly enough before

    Now there may not be time sanctions to work
     
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    The ONLY answer to this mess if the world does not want to allow a Nuclear NK is unpleasant politically but pretty easy in reality if we just grow a set and drop the PC BS.

    Assassinate Lil' Kimmy and allow NK to collapse. China will not like the resulting influx and domestic problems it creates and South Korea will need to prepare BIG TIME...but nothing else will ever work.
     
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    Sorry. No. This cannot be true. What is probably the worst crime we've seen? I say it is the illegal invasion of Irak, the occupation by the US of Irak, all based on a pure lie of WMD's, planted false evidence, a CIA spy team infiltrating the first UN inspection team, and the invasion perpetrated when 11 of the twelve sites had been given a clean slate. There is no way anyone can consider that series of events a "miscalculation".

    Maybe your ear isn't to the ground or you just do not have access to world opinion but Russia is already considered "the good guy".
     
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    Nagasaki and Hiroshima were the last strikes - Japan launched the first strike.
     
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    I think they have indocterninated themselves in socialism and ant Americanism and anti trumpism to the point that they think ghey dont need us anymore
     
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    Why would china get involved in a war between the US and north korea?
     
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    The agreement between clinton and kim was for the allies to supply nk with two nuclear plants for energy only
     
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    I have a solution. Instead of a ground invasion, why not leave the ****ing Korean peninsula alone and let North Korea and South Korea work out their own problems.

    That whole thing is NONE of America's business...NONE.

    When will dumb ass neocons get tired of seeing Americans die fighting other people's battles while other Americans pay for it?
     
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    I suppose then, that NK aided by China would invade SK and take it over, making China stronger and the US weaker. Which President is going to allow that?
     
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    lol that wasnt even the issue....he was implying they were ICBM strikes, then he took off when he realized what an ICBM was.
     
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    Because China doesn't want millions of NK unskilled refugees, who need to housed and fed for their entire life... as is what goes on with the millions and millions of Syrians who are now in Turkey and Jordan. That and they rather have the American armies in South Korea, than at their border.

    As if the US loves millions of refugees and the Chinese army at their border.
     
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    You don't know much about China do you?

    1) China has NEVER invaded a country that was not part of it's historical territory. Never. South Korea - after the Mongolian period - was never (to my knowledge) part of historical China (though North Korea was at times).
    China is an inward looking society. They don't care about world conquest, they just want their own country, powerful and have everyone leave them alone.

    2) China is trying to dominate the world economically...that should be obvious. And if they invaded South Korea, that dominance would end on the spot as almost every country would immediately boycott their exports.

    I mean think...the amount of damage to China's economy if they invaded SK would be GIANT. And what would they get for it? Little as all the benefit would go to NK.
     
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    Yes. That is a solution. The best solution. But the US has self-proclaimed itself to be the ONLY negotiator. That is to say that the US intervenes and does not allow South Korea "a say" in the matter. Both north and south have agreed more than once to have talks and make progress in some sort of reunification but the US has stopped it every time. Your solution is a good one and if the US would butt out Korea would almost certainly have already been unified. In essence, the US will not allow Democracy to flourish anywhere it has influence. They have thwarted Democracy all through Asia, all through Latin America, and parts of Africa.It destroyed Democracy in Iran, it prevented Democratic elections in Vietnam, Cuba, Chile, Guatemala, San Salvador, Nicaragua, Bolivia, Ecuador, etc. etc. etc.
     
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    I agree completely.
     
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    Yeah, you guys have just been peacefully occupying part of Korea, minding your own business, huh?

    It takes two to tango.
     
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    Trump says he is willing to talk directly with North Korea.

    Having waved the big stick he is now offering them the peace they have not be allowed for 60 years,
    Carrot and stick.

    Well done Donald Trump.
    I find myself liking this man.

    You can take him seriously.
     
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    South Korea? Has no say. It's stuck in the middle.
    Even more so than North Korea. Luckily however, the US makes for an awesome enslaver.
    Just look at North Korea for an example of what life in South Korea could already be like.

    So, all that you say is true and yet this is also true. Yanks are nice guys. Real nice. Better to be occupied by them than free to govern yourselves in a great number of instances worldwide.

    They are about as light touch as any empire in human history. It's worth bearing the alternative in mind. Well worth it.
     
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