Peace process begins in Syria, US abstains

The use of gasoline will probably decline within the next ten years.

 

Hey Margot, they were paid to do so by Saudi Arabia. But you know that.

 

What a silly lie. Did Iran tell you that?

That whole story about Iran sending their navy to the Gulf of Mexico was an Iranian lie right out of Iran

Iranian propaganda picked up by Caspian News?

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And we're to believe the British tabloids? Now you're being funny! They like to quote sources that they created themselves. It gives the MI6 something to do other than car accidents, poisoning, etc.

 

Do you need other sources?

The whole conflict in Syria could have been avoided if Assad had kept his promise to make reforms BEFORE the spring of 2011. Nothing has changed except 5 million people left Syria, a half million are dead and Syria is in ruins.

 

I would LOVE an honest discussion.

If you can explain to me the military advantage gained by Assad when he bombed, gassed, and otherwise attacked and killed his own people, I'm totally onboard for an honest discussion.

If you can explain to me the threat to the US posed by Syria, I'm totally onboard.

 

Syria wasn't a threat to the US, but 7 million Syrian refugees are a threat to Europe and the Middle East.

 

There was no threat to the US from Syria but many ppl would like to think that in case of genocide some powerful country would step in and try to stop it - that was the only "ticket" for the US, Obama was not a conquest president - can we both agree on that at least ?

Assad lost his country from within months before ISIS attacks, he and his father ALWAYS ruled with an iron fist and fear the way the Baath party rules, the secret police is not just there to catch Zionists its mostly a terror tool, so when Assad had to install order as fast as he could, when he felt that even the Russians were thinking about a replacment - he used gas to solve all that and inspire fear in those that havent died, makes a whole lot of sense to me than a US plot with a president that ran to office on getting out of Iraq!

 

As an Irish-American Catholic, and a man who has never visited the middle east, I've never been able to understand why those people like dictators like Hussein, but they do, and I accepted that fact decades ago. Thankfully the US has been isolated from that religious nonsense for many long years, but then George Bush inserted us right into the middle of it all. I've never forgiven him for the fraudulent war over there he started.

I do appreciate your acknowledging that there was no threat to the US from Syria, but just who are these ppl you refer to, and which genocide are you describing in your hypothetical? I would like to think that Obama was not a "conquest president", but his actions in Libya and the rest of that part of the world with drones killing innocents of all stripes contradicts that assessment.

If somebody, anybody, can explain the military advantage, ANY advantage gained by Assad with his supposed 'barrel bombs' and chemical attacks on his own people, I would love to hear it. I did study military science for a few years, and would be most curious about such an advantage. Proof that he did it would also be nice, but in today's America, proof is not required when the government says something.

 

Proof in todays reality of photoshop and thousands propaganists reaching the whole world in speed of light - is a global problem,

Before ISIS attacked, before Russia got involved even before Iran got involved - Assad used his army to qualm the riots that only got strongetr because of the "Arab spring" effect, they probebly were foolish but Mubarak just stepped down in Egypt and they figured Assad might step down too, but he thought otherwise, so - in our news at least- they reported dozens of killed every day for MONTHS till the FSA was formed from deserters of Assad army, only then the country really fell apart and only then Iran and Lebanon stepped in, by that time it was Assad followers against the rest of Syria - mind you that was still before ISIS moved in, when ISIS attacked the country was already torn to pieces and I think it was safe to call it genocide, it was'nt a specific ethnic or even religous sect but a national one, Millions of refugees, now why would 5 Million ppl flee rather than join the army and fight for their leader ? like you would expect Americans to do in similar threat, because someone paid them to run ? does that makes sense ?

Assad would have prefered ALL his ppl to follow him, no question about that but since they did revolt because - I dunno maybe the saw an American movie about freedom, he had to stop them, he was a young leader with little exp. and many Baath advisors that acted the way they know, it really all fits, the whole string of it from beginng to end, I really cant understand ppl that think Assad is a legit leader, he is a ruthless pirate that simply survived and for a few moments there he was a btter alternative to ISIS, but to crown him as legit ? few men in history had so much of their own ppl blood on their hands.

 

To all the dipwads continuing to spout that Assad gassed his own people. This has been debunked near ad infinitum as propaganda.

We know now that the gas attacks were set off by rebels, by accident. These weapons were given to them by Saudi Arabia.

To think Assad is stupid enough to gas his own people, that gives him no strategical military advantage, while under the international spotlight, makes those who think this even more stupid than the attacks themselves.

Zero regimes on the planet would be this DUMB. I find it comical that the government thinks the population is stupid enough to believe such a narrative. It's just too convenient to get the US involved....

I hope this move is the US backing out. The outcome??

Syria was pretty darn modern before the attacks. Maybe they can go back to being a functioning society where women have rights and Muslims and christians living together. A modern society. The only thing, they don't participate in the petrodollar system. This is why the US hates Assad. No other reason. But we should be OK with that.

 

Hopefully it means an understanding by "the West" and

That Syria is NOT within their sphere of influence. Get over it.

 

Syria has been rife with assassinations and political coups since 1948 as well as brutal homicidal crackdowns in the face of protests. Why don't you look at Syrian history? Or, as an Irish-American Catholic don't you do history?

 

Why not? Assad's father also gassed thousands in Homs. Do you know anything at all about Syrian history?

Syria doesn't have any oil. LOLOL Their production is tiny and its crap.. only fit for asphalt.

 

Yes, hopefully, but the statement by Mattis that the US was in Syria for the long run suggests otherwise. Some accounts say we have more than 10 military bases in parts of Syria. Military Aggression on steroids.

 

What country under attack by the US and Israel has NOT been rife with assassinations and coups? They all have, in the Mideast and in central and south America. That is how we roll, how we overthrow legitimate governments, going back at least to Mossadegh. It is the modus operandi for our CIA.

 

Assad's father also gassed his own people. Don't you know anything about the history of Syria?

Bashar is not running the show. His younger brother controls the military and the police.. and his hardliner uncles are on the side of the brother.

If Assad were to step down, his family would kill him.

 

Margot

So many posts of yours suggest strongly that you are very much into US propaganda, and that it forms your view of the world. Some of us are able to see through the western propaganda, some are not.

 

LOLOL.. You don't know anything about Syria.

 

Care to point the date of Israel attacked liberal Syria and things went down hill from then on ? or are you in auto-west-fault mode without really checking facts ?

 

Nope. I'm in to history and facts... Ever been to Syria?

 

I love the way it was Assad who gassed people, even though he was winning the battle, and not Al Queda when they were losing the battle and could only be saved by Washington bombing Damascus... Of course the psychopath Obama was ready to bomb, had not Russia intervened. It was revealed by a Turkish newspaper later on that a truck with supplies to make gas was stopped by Turkish guards at the border, and their Intelligence told them to let it go through.

The editor of the newspaper that reported it was jailed either for that offense or another one, and later the Gulen owned newspaper was closed. One must admire the courage of the Turkish reporters that they're willing to face jail to report the news, while our 'stenographers' don't dare go against Washington for fear of losing their careers. So much for freedom of the press. Oh yes we have it all right, as long as the news never comes out in the main stream.

 

Assad's father also gassed Syrians.. Russia didn't get involved in Syria until 2015.

Russia joins war in Syria: Five key points - BBC News - BBC.com

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Oct 1, 2015 - Russian warplanes have carried out their first air strikes on opponents of ... "If these raids continue this way, Russia will kill a larger number of civilians that Bashar did in four years," ... Russia'smilitary build-up hints at wider involvement .... Parental Guidance · Contact the BBC · Get Personalised Newsletters.

 

Assad's father also gassed Syrians.. Russia didn't get involved in Syria until 2015.

Russia joins war in Syria: Five key points - BBC News - BBC.com

www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34416519
Oct 1, 2015 - Russian warplanes have carried out their first air strikes on opponents of ... "If these raids continue this way, Russia will kill a larger number of civilians that Bashar did in four years," ... Russia'smilitary build-up hints at wider involvement .... Parental Guidance · Contact the BBC · Get Personalised Newsletters.

 

Are you kidding? Israel's crimes are not covered by the mainstream media here in the US. Consider the secrecy associated with their attack on the USS Liberty. I was never aware it even happened until 30 years later.

Israel is very good at false flag operations and having the US do its dirty work. Documents are destroyed, deception is employed.

But some have been studying Israel's methods for years, and the goal of Greater Israel includes destroying Syria as a functional nation.