POLITICS 11/30/2017 01:42 pm ET Updated Nov 30, 2017 Federal Judge Slams Trump Administration’s ‘Ci

Yeah, sure...you are morally superior because you want to have empathy for poor little terrorists but can find none for the unborn.

 

You miss the point entirely! Not even remotely close to the original topic!

 

I accept your unconditional surrender and sentence you to indefinite detention.

 

Try and stay on topic please!

 

He's ACCUSED of joining ISIS, but he's had no due process so how do we KNOW anything? If he was apprehended shooting at American troops by credible witnesses I say treat him as you would any other enemy combatant but at least let us know what he was seen doing and by who.

 

Do all members of ISIS shoot at Americans?

The Isis cook or I.T. guy is just as guilty of being an enemy combatant as someone with a rifle is.

 

Whatever AU...

Not like the guy just woke up in Syria one day with an AK-47 in his hand and a towel on his head.

 

Isn't the original topic that the US government has nullified Habeas Corpus by way of legislation, and the judge is unaware of that?

 

Your response is nonsensical. It's like: Well if you don't want that to happen, then don't get accused of making war on the US. Look there are no gdamn exceptions!!! Get IT? If you are an American then you get due process.

 

Again, how do we know even that without his being granted due process.

It must be awfully easy to convict people in your world, just accuse them and their guilty, Do you have any enemies?

 

Making up **** about me because you have no clue and are unwilling to educate yourself ... by YOUR OWN ADMISSION? This discussion is not about terrorists or the unborn, try to keep up. Oh wait, you can't because you're unwilling to learn.

 

right wingers gave Obama a ton of crap for killing those two guys without due process. Now all of a sudden it is AOK once Trump is President.

Here is exactly what you said in your post......"Now all of a sudden it is AOK". The word it refers back to the subject of your sentence "Obama a ton of crap for killing those two guys without due process". Did you skip a lot of English classes in school?

 

Just post "but obama" and move along. You add nothing to the discussion.

 

Apparently my use of juxtaposition is over your head. You want me to stop because it takes ALL the wind out of the OP post and your position.

 

Nope! Nice try though

If you can find a U.S. court of law in Iraq, then feel free to give the person DUE PROCESS. Until then let him rot in the country he chose to defend!

 

It's not juxtaposition, it's you not being able to refute the OP. It's pathetic and boring.

 

Government servants are bound by Oath by the Constitution no matter where they are. In this case government servants have imprisoned an American citizen in violation of the Constitution. It's not up to the poster to rectify the situation, that's within the purview and mandate of those who are detaining him.

Without due process, anyone can be convicted of anything based strictly on accusation. He is being detained by American government servants not by a foreign power. It hasn't been proven that he "chose to defend" another nation, it is merely an accusation. This is why we have a criminal justice system in America, also bound by the Constitution. Furthermore, his case is being reviewed by an American court.

 

And he'll get the military due process that all other ISIS fighters get.

And it's a good thing too.

Less loop-holes.

 

I would say someone should learn how to spell America before making threads like this. It is difficult to take this serious.

 

Ya tell that to Korea and Lil kim or Iran. I any case you or I or the Huffy Puffy don't know the entire story so until they iron it out this person can stay where he was taken into custody.

Read your own article and pay a little more attention to those in charge have said..

Due Process in DUE time, now what you or I see fit. Besides it's not like the putts is languishing in a Korean or Iranian prison!

Be a little realistic

 

This thread is not about spelling, try to keep up.

 

This thread is not about Korea and Lil kim or Iran. Please stay on topic.

You are correct that we don't know the entire story, so we are discussing what we do know. As far as I know, he is currently staying where he was taken into custody, so that's a non sequitur.

This is clearly nonsense, I have read the ENTIRE article and paid full attention to every word. Stick to what you know, if anything.

That's an oxymoron. Clearly you don't understand the doctrine of due process. Timeliness is a critical component of due process. If that weren't the case, anyone can be held in custody for years with no due process rights granted until those holding the person in custody feel like granting due process rights. You also didn't understand what you quoted. The decision on the disposition of the detainee's custody has nothing to do with granting the detainee all due process rights. It's apparent the judge agrees. You are just being an apologist for those who violate the Constitution.

That's irrelevant but it's correct. He is being held by Americans bound by the Constitution, who failed to protect and defend his constitutionally protected rights as mandated by their Oath.

I'm not the one making **** up, you are.

 

Bad grammar makes it difficult.

 

It's not about bad grammar either. You are certainly free to ignore the thread if these are major issues for you.

 

Same difference BB. Our UCMJ in Iraq is holding him indefinitely, and of course in an effort to get our oil which somehow ended up under Iraqi sand, we invaded there.

Our UCMJ, or whatever model of Star Chamber Justice System we have imposed there, is following the lead of the Military Commission Act and various NDAA amendments which allow indefinite detention when we invoke the "terrorist" label.