Is it atheist to hate god?

To be fair, it's some atheists. Most don't care, but militant ones who frequent forums? Yes, they do. However, look at the so-called Christians who preach hate against Muslims and abortionists. Bad people come in all shapes, sizes and claims of beliefs.

 

I'm not feeling christmas-ee yet either, so happy Festivus to you as well.

Perhaps some egg nog and dark rum..a bit of nutmeg...

 

I don't think He condemns as much as we choose. I do think it is what is in our hearts and what we have done with the talents we were given. I don't think Bill is very remorseful, but I could be wrong. Going to church is worship and only part of the road to salvation. If you read your bible, you'll find out that no one is good in the sense that their goodness gets them a heavenly reward. Only one had no sin and He was fully God and fully man. I don't know what He will do. Maybe He will give them the scraps from the table like the Roman soldier got? That would make the most sense. He didn't believe, but may have been humble and decent. Who knows? It doesn't say exactly, so we have to have faith that it's not our worry, since we know the choices and have decided.

 

Agreed, in fact I believe there is no condemnation at all; it's a matter of free will.

A fundamental question is the nature of evil; is it a force like gravity or is it simply the absence of something like cold is the absence of heat? Given all the analogies about good and evil being forces of light and darkness, I believe evil is the absence of goodness AKA God-ness. People can choose to walk into the light or into the darkness. They can stay in the darkness as long as they please, but the light will always be waiting for them.

 

The etymological root for the word atheism originated before the 5th century BCE from the ancient Greek ἄθεος (atheos), meaning "without god(s)". In antiquity it had multiple uses as a pejorative term applied to those thought to reject the gods worshiped by the larger society,[13] those who were forsaken by the gods or those who had no commitment to belief in the gods.[14] The term denoted a social category created by orthodox religionists into which those who did not share their religious beliefs were placed.[14] The actual term atheism emerged first in the 16th century.[15] With the spread of freethought, skeptical inquiry, and subsequent increase in criticism of religion, application of the term narrowed in scope. The first individuals to identify themselves using the word atheist lived in the 18th century during the Age of Enlightenment.[16][15] The French Revolution, noted for its "unprecedented atheism," witnessed the first major political movement in history to advocate for the supremacy of human reason.[17] The French Revolution can be described as the first period where atheism became implemented politically.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism


The 'age of Enlightenment' was during the time of The Ottoman Empire.

 

How many messages have you posted expressing contempt of people who believe in Bigfoot and/or Nessie?

 

FYI. I am pushing 67 and have a quite certain knowledge of you and your lies.

My assessment stands, perhaps is even fortified by your retort.

Additionally, I and no one else is compelled top answer your demands. Further proof that you should withdraw from humanity before humanity compels you to withdraw.

 

And how many have you posted in support of the fictional?

 

You know that ego of yours and your false assumptions paint a picture of you that even you would not like.

Your attempts(?) humor put lie to your claim to be 62, more like 22 or younger with limited mental processes. But just keep going, you continue to support my view of you with each one.

 

Since you are certain, there is nothing left to discuss. Once again, Good Luck!

 

What is there to apologize about? I've said nothing to you that you haven't said about me or others.

Stalking? If you think I'm stalking, you should file a report with the mods. Here, I'll do it for you.

 

The big bang is the expansion of spacetime. It makes no sense to ask what happened "prior" to the big bang because that's asking what happened before time, which attempts to put time within time. "Before time" is like an married bachelor.

 

Yes, I've heard that argument before. So how would you describe it?

Speaking of time, a mistake a lot of atheists, and some theists, make when talking about all-powerful entities is the meaning of eternal. It's timeless, not just a long, long time.

 

I wouldn't. It is very likely that human language probably can't describe it. We can, however, say an awful lot about what it isn't. As others have put it: asking what came before the big bang is like asking what's north of the north pole.

I'm aware of the transcendental interpretation of it. You could like at time itself, as a whole, the same way. It is not, itself, within time, so asking what caused it is nonsensical. The whole concept of causality itself is contingent on time, so it makes no sense for time to be caused.

 

Of course its 'speculation.' I thought that was clear. How would I 'prove' that some atheists actually believe in God (and hate Him) but dont want anyone to know?

I never claimed that Obama supporters worshipped him... but its interesting you would bring it up.



This was not common enough to prove my point, nor is it precisely what I was talking about, but it is a rough example of how the progressive agenda is replacing the worship of gods with the worship of men, and conveniently, an example that at least a few of Obamas supporters worshipped him enough to indoctrinate children into it.

 

Since we lack the language to describe the situation, do you agree it's reasonable to say "before the Big Bang" even though we both agree Space-Time began at the Big Bang?

 

BS. I keep saying I'm not a theist and you keep attacking calling me one. Why? The fact I understand Christian theology doesn't make me a theist. You accuse me of what you do which is a common defense mechanism.

 

I think you misunderstood. I said that basic human reason and compassion are why some belief systems are worthy of ridicule. A cruel belief system deserves to be condemned. You can't honestly claim that there is no belief system that you would be willing to condemn.

It is interesting that you talk about demeanor, though. When I criticize these views of God, I'm making a judgement about the demeanor of the God being proposed.

If I was worried about that, I wouldn't be on a debate and discussion forum.

Depends on how reasonable the observation is. It certainly isn't categorically a bad thing.

I've spent more time criticizing the God of the Hebrew scriptures than I have any other religion. As far as your other interpretations of Hell go, if they involve punishing people for their thoughts, my position is still the same: a God who would devise such rules would be immoral and irrational.

 

The only way there could be a "before" the big bang would be in some sort of multiverse with multiple timelines; our universe would be a "bubble" in a larger multiverse. Otherwise, if the time of our universe is the only time that exists, then there is no "before" or "prior to" the big bang.

 

I don't do text walls, so this is shortened.

First, Beliefs and actions are two different things. There's lots in both the Bible and the Koran that are barbaric by today's standards. Anyone who advocates actually stoning someone for blasphemy should to have their internet access docked.

Second, understood, hence my earlier comment about how most atheists comment on the Christian God.

 

A nice belief. Got any evidence? LOL

Yes, the multiverse theory is interesting.

 

Cool, then we agree that some belief systems deserve criticism.

 

No, it would be a belief if I believed in it. I'm agnostic about it the existence of a multiverse. I was just pointing out that this is the only scenario in which there would be a "before" the big bang, because there would be more spacetime out there than what we have in just our universe.

 

I've said I don't care what another believes. I gave you mainstream Christian theology which you can do with as you wish. It is not what I believe but rather what the Church espouses. I've even said don't believe me but look it up for yourself. In fact my criticism has not revolved against your core belief of no God but rather people making comments that are not consistent with mainstream Christianity. I've been critical of mocking and attacking people based on their interpretation of Christianity which is often far from what Christians believe. I've not been critical of anyone being either agnostic or atheist.

You people are so rude it's not worth my time to debate you. You have nothing to rebut but demonization. And you either cannot or will not comprehend what people are saying.

Not worth my time.

 

Continuing refusal to admit your own faults is symptomatic of much deeper problems on your part.

You said that you were not going to post to me again, an obvious lie as are most of your claims.