Here are the lawmakers calling for gun control in the wake of Florida shooting

How is banning guns going to stop someone from getting shot?

 

Not at will junior, every shooting is investigated. FAIL, try again.

 

This thread is for thinking people, I think you took a wrong turn.

 

Why do you want to ban guns?

 

Who said I did? But, how are you going to keep firearms out the hands of people who shouldn't have them well at the sometime keeping and protecting the Constitutional rights of those who can have firearms?

 

Some seem eager to just to surrender to the incredible rate of forearm massacres in the US.

Constitutional rights and the right of Americans to have their children protected from homicidal gunmen are not incompatible, are they?

Screening gun purchasers for mental illness does not violate the Constitution, but please offer your solutions. How do we, as a society protect ourselves from homicidal maniacs that exploit the gun permissiveness in America?

 

No. 6char.

 

Simple, you can't. 1) If I am willing to kill you and anyone else and screw the consequences of what may happen, how are you going to stop that??? You really can't 2) If I am declare mental incom. to have a gun, or a criminal and I really want to get access to one that, is fine I'll do a straw purchase or steal it. 3) You can't pass unilaterally gun control due to the 2nd amendment, SCOUS will shoot it down and/or congress will be replaced with people who will shoot it down/replace it

 

Binary thinking people. Or those without education thinking people.

Afterall, you derailed your own thread, in the OP none the less.

I may have taken a wrong turn, I thought this was the HUMOR section.

 

Pro gun types (like myself) are going to have to accept the fact that we are bringing up a generation where most will know someone who has been killed in a school shooting.
That's just a fact. Those voters are having gun massacres burned into their collective psyche - so do not be surprised in 10 or 15 years when this generation hits their stride politically that gun sales will become strictly regulated.

So it would be better to start making some concessions now, like stronger background checks, smaller magazines or clips, and mental health checks so people can look at gun owners as concerned citizens, rather than just old pricks who just say NO to everything until this generation of shot-up school children take charge of the government and they shut the door hard on guns.

I say this as someone who likes to hunt and owns guns. If we are the angry old men who will never compromise, our kids are going to say, "**** you, and the horse your rode in on, the guns are gone." So give a little now - it's an investment in the future.

 

Wrong, New York, New York, the largest city in the United States, is one of the safest cities in the world, and in general, those blue states with strict gun laws are at the bottom of States with high homicide rates

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_in_the_United_States_by_state

And to answer your next question, what about Chicago, it ain't easy preventing gun violence when gun loving Indiana is only a twenty minute ride away, any entrepreneur with a car trunk can make a ton importing guns

 

Wow, a gun lover motivated by reason, your correct, it will be a generational change, so might as well compromise now so that both sides can get something they like

 

Bullshit. Never give up any of your constitutional rights. There is no compromise on a constitutional right.

 

Very well said. I will fight every gun ban but some reasonable measure need to be made now.

 

It was once considered a constitutional right for men to prevent women from voting.
It was once considered a constitutional right by a dozen states for men to own slaves.

Things change.

 

It appears that you have nothing to offer, and expect the United States to continue in vastly surpassing every other nation on earth in firearm massacres.

Americans who wish to protect their children from homicidal maniacs who exploit permissive firearm laws will not be voicing your despair.

Pleading impotence in the face of the ongoing carnage in the US does not confront the problem.

 

I really like how you chose to ignore everything I typed. So thanks.

 

You have not offered any suggestions how to reduce the obscene frequency of firearm slaughter in the US.

Why not encourage our representatives to represent the People and not a special interest?

For the extremists, such sensible legislation could have an expiration date, i.e., one year after which it need not be renewed if Americans then agreed that it had had negligible impact in reducing the carnage.

Would the gun fanciers be afraid of such a test?

 

They just don't get it, amazing, let me help you out there "sayin," no Constitutional right is absolute, none, never have been nor ever will be, guns can be Constitutionally regulated, FACT

 

That is exactly how it is in IL.. You have to apply for a FOID card before you can buy a gun or ammo. Hasn't really helped with the murders in Chicago..

 

This says it all

 

Indiana is 20 minutes away....and Chicago is still ranked 18th in gun deaths

 

What other constitutional rights should you also have to get a license for?

I think the best case scenario is just make a strict naughty list.. If you have committed any violent crimes in the past you get on the list.. if you have had any mental problems in the past you are also on that list. Gun owners that have done nothing wrong dont want to be on any government lists. Anyone that has ever taken any SSRI or other anti depressants are on that list.. If you want to still buy a gun and you are on the NO list then taking a full psychological evaluation like you proposed could get you off the list or a special "license to purchase"..

 

so someone who is willing to break the largest law we have in committing murder.. a smaller law in "applying for a FOID card" didnt stop them?!?!? color me shocked!!!

 

Except that gun control works when you do it on a national level like Canada, Europe, japan, Australia....etc