Here are the lawmakers calling for gun control in the wake of Florida shooting

Again, destroying us serves no purpose. That means a ground game. There are a lot more of us. Our BEING armed PREVENTS an armed takeover.

 

You got a mouse in your pocket? Cause when you say "our" all I see is about 10 dudes standing around in wannabe tactical outfits they bought last week to go with their tin-foil hats.

 

We made peace with this long ago, what's a few more kids, we'll do it all again in a week or two, no one's going to do anything, relax. The masses merely need to be kept in a permanent state of ramped up anxiety.

 

The public.

 

Try again - the "public" isn't as paranoid as you and your militia buddies are. There is a hell of a long way between some political infighting over
gay marriage and a wall till you get to fighting in the streets with the US ARMY. I worry about you.

 

Eliminating gun deaths by outlawing guns is like eliminating drug use by outlawing drugs. How has that worked out? We have eliminated prostitution by making it illegal, by creating laws against it. We have stopped all speeding and deaths from speeding, by making laws against speeding.

It seems that laws only work with people who would obey them but never in regards to the people who will break them. I guess it gives some people a false sense of security, to legislate against something, which decent people would not do anyways.

The 2nd Amendment will remain under attack by those people who demand a security which they can never have, except as a delusion. Rights and freedom always comes with costs. Sometimes those costs, because crazy people and criminals abuse a right and freedom, makes some people want to destroy the right and freedom. They would take away a right because a tiny percentage will abuse a right and freedom. This is what it boils down to. The cost to them of this right exceeds the importance and value of the right. But IMO, their expectations are grounded in pure delusion.

 

So these people are blaming themselves, or others in congress for not legislating some kind of gun control which will stop these mass shootings in schools.

Why kinda of new controls and laws do these people think will stop these shooting? lol Perhaps while they are at it, they can pass some more laws to stop this heroin use and meth use too?

That the democrats eat his absurdity up is embarrassing for me, as I am embarrassed that they would show such stupidity. Hell, I used to be a democrat before they went batsh*t crazy. Drove me into being an independent.

 

They ain't really people. They turn into people magically when they squirt out into the doctor's hands and take that first breath. Not breathing, not a person, not a human being. The key to killing them without it being called murder is to do it before they squirt out. No squirt, no death of a human being. But if you let them squirt out, then if they get killed by some mentally ill kid at school of course you must take guns away from good people, so that the nuts and criminals cannot get their hands on guns. Take away the guns and no one ever gets killed again at school. I bet it would stop all deaths from violence too. It is those damned guns doing all of the killing. Which is why we lock them up. We lock them up not to keep them out of the hands or criminals and crazy people, but because guns will run out if not locked up and start shooting people. We need to start executing the guns, so we can stop them from killing human beings.

 

You make a compelling case regarding the reduction and or elimination of medical coverage for mentally ill yoing adults. Of course you will be accused of being a liberal Commie gun grabber. Why? Because when certain oeople fail to developed a honest argument they dive into the swamp of accusing people of name calling.

 

Do you understand that gun controls laws are not gun confiscation laws?
You must not because you seem to confuse all gun control laws with gun confiscation.

Have considered educating yourself about the difference between gun controls and gun confiscation ?

 

That is a tired old cop out.

 

Yes the constipated conspiracy to frame the Trumpocity is being directed by purple oeople eating space aliens from the planet Nebulon 17.675 b.

 

The responsibility of society does not mean that the family is obsolved from resposibiity. The reverse is also true.

 

Abortion is not the topic here.

 

Convicting a woman or a doctor orva nurse or an insurance executive or an insurance claims processor for murder over abortion is a wet dream some people seem to be having.

 

Correct, it is much more deadly. 40 million dead through abortion since Roe v Wade.

 

Some people foolishly believe that you can eliminate all traffic deaths by having automobilevtraffic laws. Automobile traffic laws such as having to stop at a stop sign, or keep a certain speed limit, yeild the right of way do not eliminate all accident nor do that elliinate all traffic deaths.

Why don't we throw outvall forms of automobile Traffic laws?

 

It's notoriously difficult to aim the bullet without one.

 

Banning guns won’t stop homicides. Banning alcohol won’t stop people drinking and driving. Taking away licenses doesn’t stop it either. Making murder illegal doesn’t stop murderers. Making drugs illegal sure as **** hasn’t stopped people doing drugs. Making stealing illegal doesn’t stop thieves.

I’d be OK with making it much more difficult for people to buy ARs though. And of course if the FBI gets a lead about a crazy person, I expect them to actually follow it.

 

We did throw out the 55 MPH law. Most studies I have read indicate that law saved lives. I guess those lives were unimportant to those who wanted to get to their destination quicker. Did anyone stop to think about those who never arrived?

 

dam I could have sworn abortion was mentioned in the OPs opening post

Correct me if I am wrong here but the gun grabbers on the left staunchly believe you can eliminate gun violence through gun laws, yet their go to chant when talking about abortion is that you can' stop people's behavior with a law because when there is a will there will be a way.

Can someone who believes these things explain how they aren't directly contradictory?

dam there it is

 

Nope. It's all about getting to keep/do stuff you like.

 

The west produces a lot of these 'tyrants', does it? I'll grant you Mussolini was a bit of a scallywag ... and there was the guy with the funny mustache ...

Meantime, how many in America, so far? Let's see the awful stats on tyrannical despotism in America. The stats which lead you to believe such a thing is not only possible, but likely.

 

You're right then what someone does is get a claw hammer or a speargun and go around and do that. Or better yet make a bomb. God knows you can't find the knowledge on how do that one.

 

There must always be a balance between restrictions and rights. But I think a form is not too much to ask.

Beautiful day here in Vegas rich