Salisbury poison was Russian-made NOVICHOK - British PM confirms.

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  1. Striped Horse

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    Even if all previous cases, which are presented on the slide, had been the proved crimes of Putin (although they aren’t), it would have nothing to do with the title of this document - with “Salisbury Incident”.

    To put it into more simple words - even if a person has been proved to have killed Mrs. Brown in Liverpool and Mrs. White in Glasgow, it cannot be evidence that this person tried to poison Mrs. Johnson in London with whom he (she) had a quarrel.
     
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    LOL But what a strange place to leave the first tranche of 'Novichok', Striped Horseski ( :nana: ) - on the front door of his house, where being an ex-spy, and presumably cognizant of Russia's propensity for er, poisoning ex-pat traitors, one might be forgiven for thinking that for the sake of a couple of hundred £smackeroonies he might have had a bit of electronic home security installed, such as 24/7 cctv, which would've caught the assassins in the very act? I'd've thought the Russians were smarter than that. [​IMG] 'Tis indeed a puzzlement!
     
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    There is no single word about Russians or Novichok in the yesterday's statement about Skripal case on the official website of Metropolitan police which is investigating this case - http://news.met.police.uk/news/update-salisbury-investigation-300644

    Probably Theresa May conducts her own investigation which allows her to claim about Russian guilt.

    But in a normal country, people, first of all, must believe information from police.
     
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    I think she dreamed it and thought it was real. Smoke and mirrors, mate, smoke and mirrors!
     
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    Does it make sense to cite ****** newspapers which distort information?

    See below the title of the yesterday’s article in The Telegraph
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...d-put-nerve-agent-sergei-skripals-front-door/

    and compare this information with yesterday’s information on the official website of Metropolitan police - http://news.met.police.uk/news/update-salisbury-investigation-300644
     
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    As per usual, the British Plod don't know whether they're coming or going. But at least they're 'taking it extremely seriously', and that's as usual. It's their mission statement! 'We take everything extremely seriously but don't expect us to actually do anything about it.' :rolleyes:
     
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    We Russkies are so devilishly clever, dear Cerberusky. Who would've thunked a door knob!

    And the silly Brit plods and old daft codgers continue to make make after mistake that makes our job easier for the nerve agent attack.

    To wit:

    If anyone is in doubt that the Skripal affair is a propaganda exercise, let me disabuse you of that view.

    Yes, as Commissar Cerberusky just said, this morning the British media are in almost universal chorus pronouncing 3 week old news as news news. The source of the Novichok nerve agent that poisoned the Skripal’s was on the door handle of Sergei Skripal’s front door all the time. Right under (or rather just above) the stiff upper lip of Inspector Plod of the Yard.

    And to think that only yesterday I posted here a leading Daily Telegraph article dated 9th March 2018, where Lord Blair, the former Met Police Commissioner stated that the police knew it the Skripal's were poisoned at their house. One has to keep poining out the obvious to the clownsky's in 77 Brigade before the message hits home.

    In their haste to keep the story bubbling and current, the glorious functionaries of the United People's Government of Pure Propaganda keep overlooking the obvious. Then again, if it is our relatively new Army 77 Brigade that was formed to propagandize on social media to influence public hearts and minds and get their message across, then logical inconsistency and other glaring mistakes are going to be made. These are not the most highly paid men and woman in the world and thus not the sharpest knives in the draw.

    The below image from the BBC, shows the timings of the Skripal’s as they drove from their offending door knob to Sainsbury’s car park, where they arrived at 13:40. Both then strolled to the Mill pub to down a tasty pint, and then to Ziizi restaurant for lunch, where they arrived at 14:20 and departed at 15:35. From there a stroll to the shopping arcade and the park bench where they collapsed, with the first emergency call timed at 16:15. Not counting the drive from the front door knob to the emergency call, approximately two and a half hours elapsed.

    Skripal timings restaurant, pub, park bench.jpg

    Two and a half hours for the military grade version of the world’s deadliest nerve agent - that kills in seconds - to have an impact. But not actually even killing either of them. Even today.

    Tommy Tovarich and the Dastardly Deadly Door

    And comrade Cerberusky, look how many pictures we British public have been treated to of ordinary common or garden variety plod cops being cued by media videographers to look official even as they saunter pass the Skripal front door with a backward grin, or protectively stand a few yards away hands crossed on belly, guarding the deadliest property. Etc etc. All in standard plod uniforms. Not a hazmat suit in sight.

    Unlike when the taxi that brought the Skripal’s back from the airport the previous day. That was hauled away to Porton Down in a haze of hazmat publicity. Ditto, I believe, Sergei Skripal’s car, and also the wicked park bench - plus a few other assorted item, I believe. All hauled off to Porton Down on trucks covered in tarpaulin's where they were poked, stroked, caressed and laid down on their backs for the benefit of Her Majesty's shifty scribblers of Incontinentia Buttock's (once known as Fleet Street).

    But so far as I can tell, the actual item that contained the deadliest nerve agent in the world, the door and it’s handle….. remains in situ.

    There are no news reports that I can find that the deadliest door knob in the world has been taken into custody or even threatened with a truncheon. Not even one apparent bruise or abrasion where it “fell down the stairs” on the way to the cells.

    Not a single witness statement where the interviewing h’officer says: “now look ‘ere, son. Come clean wiv us and it’ll go easier for yer. Just cough and Sgt Smith ‘ere will get you a nice mug of tea”.

    And to think of all those nice spectroscopes and multiple other machines that go ping! wasting away at Porton Down resentful of their non use on the world's deadliest door door and knob (never forget, machines have feelings too).

    But. I rather suspect that will soon change.

    Check out the videosky in the below Telegraphsky report

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...d-put-nerve-agent-sergei-skripals-front-door/
     
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    lol And to think we once ran an Empire, eh? For the second time this morning I say How the mighty are fallen! I'll check out the vid now. The link doesn't work but I'll find it on Google News I expect.

    Edit - obviously Blair's in the loop . . .

    "Second Brexit referendum would be 'perfectly rational' says Tony Blair"

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/pol...fectly-rational-says-tony-blair-a3802176.html

    . . . and I am on topic. second ref?
     
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    In the spirit of comedy, what would Sherlock do? WWSD? :banana:
     
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    Did Russian trolls conquer this thread now?

    Oh well, they at least won Russia somethin...
     
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    Speaking of fallen.

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    Always open for business. Russian oligarchs and crooks a speciality.
     
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    Da comrade Goodsky.

    We came, we saw, he died.

    Well, he didn't die. But he should've, might've, could've...

    Except that the eensy-weensy problem that deadliest military grade nerve agent in the world that kills in seconds doesn't. It doesn't even kill. Not even in 2 1/2 hours.

    Oh well, back to making Sarin in Syria I suppose, for those wonderful men in White Hats who do so love false flags (which are after all a special Turkish delight). Next time they'll even learn not to send patients to the hospital an hour before the attack occurs - that will be more convincing.

    Now then, be a good comrade chappie and toddle along to the appointment you have with your therapist. If you're an especially good comrade chappie, and take your meds as prescribed, the phantom reds will slink back under their phantom beds. And then you can return to being the brilliant mathematician, John Nashsky, and be hired by Hollywood to reprise the star role in A Brilliant Mindsky.

    Do svidaniya...
     
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    He'd deduce and then tell us about the curious incident about the dog that didn't bark in the nightsky...
     
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    lol And what's 'above and beyond' is too awful to contemplate?? :omg: :eek: [​IMG]
     
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    I didn't think otherwise a second that it'd be you first to jump in to reply the post referred to the "Russian trolls"... Jeanette would have done the same... Lol... It's just beyond pathetic...
     
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    goody, you have created this topic in order to tell about poisoning of two persons in Great Britain by Russians.

    Therefore please tell about evidences that Russians have done it! Your opinion about trolls, about Jeanette etc. is not very interesting.
     
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    The thought alone makes we wince
     
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    Exactement - I saw my breakfast again after I posted it. :mrgreen:
     
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    Yulia Skripal is now sitting up in bed, eating and talking.

    That's military grade Novichok for you.

    Maybe she didn"t even touch the door knob though? I mean, how many people does it take to close and lock a front door on the way to a piss up and slap up meal? Usually it's the owner (Sergei Skripal) who does this, so how come Yulia got infected at all?

    The present scenario doesn't make logical sense. Yet again.

    As I predicted in my post yesterday, this morning Sky News carried a brief report - interjected into a longer report - revealing that the front door has now been boarded up and possibly removed altogether. There were certainly lots of boards all over the front garden and front of house including the door as seen from the copter video.

    A big round of applause to the boys and girls from 77 Brigade! They eventually got the message about their flawed message and responded.

    Now they're going to have to explain how Yulia touched the door. That's going to be an interesting one...
     
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    The boys in funny clothes sure are providing the neighbours with an unusual diversion from their erstwhile mundane lives. If they're not allowed out they can at least while away the hours watching the goings-on from their bedroom windows. They probably have taken the door away - I mean there can't be much they haven't taken away, but why leave the park bench they sat on in situ for so long? I think we should be told.
     
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    Looks like there are some issues with the current narrative. They went out shopping and to a pub for hours after they allegedly were in contact with the nerve agent at their home.
     
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    I hope not, or the **** will hit the fan big-time - got a link?
     
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    Look at the timeline. They were out hours before falling ill after allegedly coming in contact with the nerve agent supposedly now from their front door.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-43315636
     
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    Uh-oh? Whither 'the narrative'?
     

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