Trump supports torture and other indulgences

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    OMG!
     
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    Show me anyone alive today who tortured people specifically because Jesus’s teachings told them to.
     
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    So if God/Jesus, Mohammad, and Allah were alive today, then you'd roundly condemn them, like I would, correct?
     
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    Yeah, I know, it is amazingly dumb and meaningless to condemn dead and fictional people.
     
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    The fact that you think fictional beings should be condemned speaks volumes about your grasp on reality.
     
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    They aren’t, so your hypothetical is one again just a pointless circlejerk to make yourself feel better than other people.
     
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    God/Jesus teaches that it's perfectly ok to send your mother (say she's a Buddhist, atheist, Hindu, etc.) to brutal, worse-than-Auschwitz torture simply for not "believing" in one of the thousands of gods on offer. You can condemn Christians who approve of this barbaric torturer, can't you?
     
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    People don't pattern their lives after, say, Frodo....but they DO with God/Jesus - so of course we need to condemn the barbarity of God/Jesus.
    Jesus also, in the Bible (assume it's true for argument's sake), urged people to abandon their children (to follow him), but you are obviously fine with that so I won't even bother asking you to condemn Christians for approving of that atrocity.
     
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    Will Trump ever reverse his approval of torture? Maybe pressure can be put on him to do so?
     
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    Except in Christian morality god has absolute say over what is right and wrong, so in their system it isnobjectively justified for Buddhists to go to hell and you are objectively wrong on the issue.
     
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    A weak mind can't handle hypotheticals.
     
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    Jesus only urges people to abandon their children if you read the text as mindlessly literal as someone an IQ of 40. Actual Christians don’t read it as idiotically as you choose to.
     
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    You are right that I'm not approving of their barbaric system. They are immoral, period, for approving of such a barbaric scheme, however.
     
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    A weak ego constantly feels the need to insult others and make themselves feel superior.
     
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    Or they are actually right and you are the one who is objectively wrong.
     
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    I won't derail this thread by expanding on this further, but to show that I'm right and you're wrong people can see the verse here: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+14:25-27&version=ERV
     
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    But if one IS superior, then they should show others that better/more ethical way. Christians/Jews/Muslims approve of torture - unless of course they will condemn God/Jesus and Allah/Mohammad, and any other torturers in the Bible/Qur'an. So they are immoral, then, of course.
     
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    A weak mind tries their hardest to DEFLECT criticism away from torturers.
     
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    They are too brainwashed to see it for what it is - if they dare QUESTION Jesus then they fear his wrath - he might not let them into "heaven", and they'll go to "hell" just like the Dalai Lama, Einstein, Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, and all other people who won't suck up to Jesus' unproven mind-control scheme.
     
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    So that means that Christians (who believe that) can't decide morality for themselves.....that's terrible.
     
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    His literal followers as in his disciples and he didn’t call on everyone to be his disciples. People could follow his teachings just fine without abandoning their children.

    Context and FreedomSeeker are like lethal enemies.
     
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    Except you actually aren’t superior. Fictional beings don’t exist. You aren’t superior to them.

    Furthermore, in multiple threads you have said you’d be willing to put Muslims in concentration camps if you got scared enough.
     
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    The verse says "you cannot be my follower.".....period. And a previous verse said that large crowds were following him at the time.
     
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    It means they have an absolute fixed source for determining whether or not something is immoral.
     
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    Literal follower. As in “follow him around while he was still alive”.

    Are you really this ****ing simple when it comes to reading theology?
     

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