Extreme views examined

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  1. rahl

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    It worked perfectly. My goal is to point out you lies about what I said.
     
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    Right and you missed something. Blacks were shipping over slaves to the west as well. Or did you forget? Shall we dive into a history lesson or elaborate on extremists views?
     
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    I’m probably half your age or younger, lol.
     
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    You’re pathetic.
     
  6. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And you missed the target of your faux wrath. I wish you understood English.
     
  7. Brewskier

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    It shows that blacks would do to whites if they had the power.
     
  8. Brewskier

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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here is your only name source.

    "You are condemning whites over a poster. And he asks why are blacks different when they are equally racist? He makes a lot of sense were you to actually correctly engage him. Maybe me once you read this reply back. "

    You clearly did condemn him. As I said, maybe me when you read the reply.

    The following paragraph did not remotely mention your name nor did i say you in the sentences.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I believe I am correct that each topic you engage in, you pick fights with posters. And you picked a fight with me. I shut that down.
     
  12. Kode

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    B O G U S !

    When a person speaks of "serving the rich" they mean advocating and passing laws that benefit the rich at the greater expense of the public. They DON'T mean buying their products and thereby boosting their profits. Your so-called "argument" fails.


    Ok you're being worse than ridiculous. Such tripe isn't worth debating or even commenting on. But I will say it is worse than ridiculous reaching.


    I wish you would stop being ridiculous. Then I would be inclined to rant about how ridiculous you're being. Seth is a conservative guy. Did you ever see us arguing like this? No. Why? Because he is reasonable and decent. He's never ridiculous.


    None of that is valid. NONE.
    "Lawmakers screw the rich": I think you mean the rich are required to pay a higher tax bracket than we are. It's about ability to pay without impoverishment.

    "47% escape income taxes": You mean 47% of the population pay no federal personal income taxes. It's not that high. It's something more like 35% and it's because with the low, low minimum wage that you never choose to mention, they don't make enough to qualify for payment of income taxes.
    NOTE: I DID NOT SAY 35% OR 47% EARN THE MINIMUM WAGE.

    But those people pay a higher percentage of their income in taxes, overall, than the rich do.


    Riiiiiiight. To you, correcting your bogus propaganda and standing for the truth is "moaning".
     
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    England didn't outlaw slavery until 1833 but every one gives England a full pass just like many Native American tribes who continued in the slave trade and owning slaves in America for over a quarter of a century after the passage of the 13th Amendment.

    Mexico outlawed slavery in 1829 but 36 years later at the end of the American Civil War slavery was still being practiced in three of Mexico's southern states. Why do Mexicans get a free pass ? Because they under political correctness are a protected group ?

    Who actually captured Africans and sold them to slave traders ???
    Black Africans but they are given a complete pass today for capturing and selling their fellow Africans into slavery.

    Top 5 African Countries Where Slavery Is Still Rampant -> https://face2faceafrica.com/article/slavery-africa-today
     
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    They were drawn across the middle east and africa without consideration for longstanding ethnic feuds and the resulting states have had immense instability because they have people acting like the capulets and whatever the hell the other family is called
     
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    So you’re saying the borders should have been drawn across ethnic lines?
     
  16. Robert

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    Laws are passed by congress. Do you understand thus far? And far and away most laws passed were passed by Democrats. If you persist in blaming congress for aiding the rich, take it out on your Democrats. We republicans can't touch Democrats for new laws. They yell at us due to our chopping out laws.

    My argument is entirely valid. I agree that Congress takes a lot of actions but not aimed at what you claim they aim at. It is not to help the rich but done to collect maximum revenue to the Feds. None of those black hearted villains in congress want us helped all that much.

    When you lose an argument as you do with me, then deny my argument and resort to taunts and insults. You think you got away with it. But the forum watches my posts and sees how you operate.

    I and Seth are on the same page. I don't put words in his mouth nor does he put them in mine. I am very congenial with Seth and he with me. Wonder why you shoot off your face so much? Study your mirror.

    Taxes are not some social construct. When the highways must be repaired, we should never be asked our size of income. Why the 1040? So Big Brother watches you, step by step. You plead in ways to love the government. I happen to love the public.

    There is a good way to tax the public. Tax sales. i still hate this but of all tax systems, this in my view is best for the public since it rules out cheating at all levels. When i paid high taxes to buy my car, no way could I escape paying them. They did not care what I could afford, they taxed my purchase with no mercy. But I did not need to show income to them to pay such taxes. I did not need to inform big brother a thing. And they took those enormous charges and did not say thank you.

    Yes, 47 percent do what you say. They pay no income taxes based on their 1040. Any taxes paid are for social issues.

    Percentage and taxes is a mixed metaphor. You make it seem fair. That is how the Feds fool you. They know it is not fair but charge you more for less anyway.

    You know it is not fair when 47 percent pay nothing to buy a new tank yet we have taxpayers as individuals who pay so much you can buy a brand new bomber with just their money.

    I follow the rules of stores. When I walk into a store, they do not ask me what is my income. They collect the charge plus the tax. If I can't afford the purchase, I can't afford the tax. The plus on the tax is I do not need to keep a ration of records for them to pry into when they decide to audit. I never get audited on sales taxes I pay.
     
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    Wow.

    And here some people were thinking you were a racist.
     
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  18. Robert

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    Another way to see taxes is as you see the love of your family. They do not apportion love to you depending on the revenue you bring home. They love you no matter what, provided you do, what is right for your family.

    Taxes has to change. This system destroys families and destroys political systems of this nation. It is aimed at punishing the rich. I do not feel sorry for the Rich. They never ask me to. But i do know fair and what is not fair.

    Take the common hospital or doctor. Imagine they asked your income in order to set your fees for surgery or office visits? Would you sit still for doctors pulling that stunt?

    Who can you name other than government that bases fees you pay on your income?
     
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    Is South Africa not a good example of black leadership over a white minority? Feel free to select another one.
     
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    I was born poor white trash and will never fully escape it. I understand that struggle. Still, I was free.
     
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    I too was born poor white trash. Mind you, to me, my family was poor, but not trash. But the people of CA called us poor white trash. Did we earn it? I do not think so. Did we take jobs from others? We worked hard so to that extent sure we did take such jobs. What we did not do is live on welfare.

    Slaves in my opinion were indoctrinated. YES, it amounted to indoctrination when you sheltered them, fed them meals, provided a good job and fresh food from the garden. If they got scraps, it would be from animals. They made do and created new dishes. Whites did not want to eat skin? So blacks created a way to make it taste good. Who eats the pig snout. Blacks ate it.

    Were blacks beaten out of their minds. Today we have crazy people saying it was normal. I don't deny it did happen. But not normally. You would cause the slave to be not able to work. A working slave is what you really want. And if you beat humans up, do they still work?
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutu_Power

    Rwanda genocide, and Congo genocide. This plus violent decolonization all across Africa.
     
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    Ole Pol Pot didn't give a hoot about color afaik -- going after his look alikes was good enough for him. He just wanted to make life miserable and bring early death to all the city dwellers he could reach and put under his thumb, especially the educated and the professionals -- who received special doses of persecution along with religious people. Individuals had to refer to themselves as "We," with the singular personal pronoun "I" forbidden. All competition was to be eradicated in society, with every "We" person working for the harmonious good and glory of all.

    When they start messing with the language, imposing crazy forms upon it, watch out everybody.
     
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    If you're going to be an azz, I'll start ignoring you. Do you understand thus far?


    Prove it.


    Listen to me.... BOTH PARTIES aid the rich. REPUBLICANS are the main ones helping them by cutting their taxes. But Republicans never "chop out" the tax reductions they gave the rich.


    Need I remind you that Republicans cut the top tax brackets from 70% to 50%, and from 50% to 39%. That conflicts with your story.


    I didn't lose any argument with you of all people!


    Wonder why you misrepresent so much.


    You would. I could have guessed. A sales tax is THE MOST regressive tax there is!

    1) EXPENSIVE TO ADMINISTER
    The poor must be protected from taxation at some level. This is standard with all taxation in all states. To manage this, the sales tax is complex in its administration.

    The sales tax, unlike an income tax, is very heavy on reporting and paperwork, requiring bigger government to administer it and greater expense. Thus, to provide the same revenue as an income tax, a sales tax must bring in more dollars in order to pay for the greater expense of processing.

    2) A SALES TAX IS CHARACTERIZED BY A STRONG INCLINATION TO TAX EVASION AT THE RETAIL LEVEL.

    3) REQUIRES MORE EXTENSIVE BUREAUCRACY THAN INCOME TAX DOES.

    4) FAVORS THE RICH
    A sales tax favors the rich since they spend a smaller portion of their income than the middle class does.

    5) A SALES TAX FLUCTUATES MUCH MORE WITH ECONOMIC CYCLES THAN THE INCOME TAX DOES.

    6) THE SALES TAX DOES NOT LEND ITSELF TO DEDUCTIONS READILY.



    There you have it: regressive. Why do you want to punish the low income people most????


    You didn't respond to my critique of your position. "Social issues"??? You mean like sales taxes and licensing fees, etc.? "Social issues". HEH!


    Thank you.


    Careful... You're going off the deep end here with obscure and questionable words.
     
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    is race all you talk about?
     

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