Mueller opens the curtains

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  1. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    The NYT retracts Fake News a lot.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "In the wake of the testy March 5 meeting, Mueller’s team agreed to provide the president’s lawyers with more specific information about the subjects that prosecutors wished to discuss with the president. With those details in hand, Trump lawyer Jay Sekulow compiled a list of 49 questions that the team believed the president would be asked, according to three of the four people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk publicly. The New York Times first reportedthe existence of the list."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?utm_term=.f3777a8febe2

    There's little point in continuing if you won't stipulate to the facts.
     
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  3. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    That is why your source, https://abovethelaw.com/2018/05/jay...s-he-really-is-the-dumbest-lawyer-in-america/,does not state that the questions came from Sekulow.

    Note also that your new source does not say who leaked the questions.
     
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  4. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can't say I have any faith in him as an investigator if he couldn't see the bias of his members. The whole thing is a disgrace...
     
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  5. RodB

    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    No, I'll wait until the NY Times retracts who they said was their source, the WAPO claim not withstanding.
     
  6. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

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    Use of the word "coup" TWICE in the opening sentence? :roflol:

    You might need to get a BIGGER Tinfoil Hat.

    A "coup"? :roflol:
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    You might want to read what was actually said. Tha questions were based on what team Mueller told Sekulow etal in their meeting.
     
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    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    Point one -- look up "coup" in your Funk & Wagnalls
    Point two -- how is it you guys know more about the source than the NY Times, who first published the list?
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    And if Giuliana thinks Mueller is honest he has not paid much attention to his career history.
     
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    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    You need to learn the difference between enemies and criminals (or suspected criminals).
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not so sure about Giuliani, his past with the DOJ raises questions. Although I do believe he is smart enough to understand ending this farce as soon as possible is in the best interests of the country...
     
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    LOL, I would think Russians interfering in the United States would be foreign enemies. I would also think any Americans charged with "conspiracy against the United States" as Manafort & Gates are could be seen as domestic enemies, LOL. Enemies and criminals can be the same.....and I do know the difference, as explained.
     
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    Trump's buddy, Christopher Ruddy runs Newsmax - a conservative site. They are actually carrying the WAPO story on Jay Sekulow being the author of the questions. I'm assuming Newsmax is acceptable to you? I'm sure if Chris Ruddy had doubts, his site wouldn't run it. ;)

    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/f...ert-mueller-jay-sekulow/2018/05/01/id/857762/

    As for Robert Mueller, the guy is an all-American hero so it's only natural right wing nut jobs hate his guts. The below links are just a sampling, if you need more it really isn't a problem, LOL. As for the rest of the team - yup, they are why Trump and crew are a wee bit nervous, LOL.

    http://www.democracy21.org/homepage...firing-special-counsel-in-support-of-mueller/

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ace-robert-mueller-special-counsel/101810310/
     
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  14. Ddyad

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    It would almost certainly be in the best interest of Mueller and his team.
     
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    Do you realize that link is entirely supposition?
     
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    I do not read newsmax.com. The WAPO story says that Sekulow wrote down notes from the Mueller team. How do we know that is true?

    NYT and WAPO do not say that Sekulow or the Trump team leaked the questions drafted by Mueller,

    Please list a few of the significant accomplishments of Robert Mueller.
     
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    You should read Newsmax, a very, very conservative website run by Trump's good friend. Trump's legal team met with Mueller's team on March 5. During the meeting Mueller's team discussed areas of discussion they'd like to have with Trump. Trump's legal team took notes from this meeting with Mueller's team. At a later time, Jay Sekulow took these notes and, using them, wrote out the list of questions, these were leaked to the NYT. How can Mueller's team leak something they didn't write and aren't in possession of? Obviously, someone connected with Trump leaked the questions.

    Your request from above: "Please list a few of the significant accomplishments of Robert Mueller." - you're kidding? Are you helpless...... and completely ignorant of the man in charge of the Special Counsel investigation - or just lazy? Links below. Note: if you do a simple search you'll find all kinds of information about this truly remarkable American.......

    https://www.biography.com/people/robert-mueller-241110

    https://taskandpurpose.com/robert-mueller-marine-vietnam-leadership/
     
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    The questions were questions posed by Trumps lawyers on what he may be asked.

    Who leaked them to the NYT is speculation.
     
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    Nope. That would be a question for the SCOTUS should Trump fail to comply.

    And the leak came from the Trump team. WHo exactly matters little
     
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    lol good grief..."trump is doomed" post 5437. Trump if forced to answer questions will simply take the 5th and put it back on mueller to crap or get off the pot. Who would answer carefully loaded questions designed to ensnare you in this scenario. No one.
     
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    It always strikes me how trump supporters are extremely upset that Mueller is looking for wrongdoing on the part of Trump if they think his line of inquiry is outside of his extremely broad mandate.

    I wonder if they will be as outraged with Trump if mueller actually finds wrongdoing? Or will they give Trump a pass because they don’t think Mueller should have been looking outside of what they believe to be his strict mandate?

    In other words will trump supporters ignore evidence just because they don’t think it should have been found?
     
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    Was Newmax at the meeting?

    I note once again that you are unable to list any significant professional accomplishments of Robert Mueller even though you are a fan.

    IOW, you were not able to find any. That should tell you something about Mueller.
     
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    There is no evidence.
    Everything about Trump has been known and available to the police/intelligence agencies before Trump even announced his candidacy. Surely you know that.
     
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    No, it says something about your ability to click on a link and read. No worries, you were never interested anyway......
     
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    Is this a joke? Did Trump put Giuliani up to this? Is Trump trying to make everyone around him look as stupid as he is? This is surreal.

    Fox News reports, "On Wednesday, Giuliani signaled Trump’s team is still open to doing an interview – but he acknowledged he is concerned about whether Mueller’s team can be objective." :roflol:

    “Namely, do they have an open mind to the fact he could be telling the truth and Comey may be lying?” he said. “If they have an open mind to that, this is something we'd consider. If they don't, then given all the irregularities of this investigation, we would be foolish to have him be interviewed.” :rolleyes:

    Giuliani told the Post that if the President participates in an interview with Mueller, who is investigating Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election, it would need to be no longer than "two to three hours" of questioning based on "a narrow set of questions." :rolleyes: Aw, jeez, this is too much.

    "Some people have talked about a possible 12-hour interview," Giuliani told the Post. "That's not going to happen, I'll tell you that. It'd be, max, two to three hours around a narrow set of questions." :xd: I can't take this any more. Lordy, this is better than Saturday Night Live.

    Giuliani is a former prosecutor. He knows the prosecutor dictates the questions, the number of questions, and how long the interview lasts, not the subject of the interview, and that includes the President.

    Giuliani knows that if he and Trump don't comply, Mueller is going to subpoena Trump's ass.
     

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