Can atheism coexist with religion?

Maybe you only notice those atheists who are very, very angry and seek to eliminate religion, but you don't notice the other atheists because they keep quiet.

Most Christians on the other forum are as hateful and prejudiced against my people as humanly possible. Most of them are Orthodox. Only a handful of Catholics don't share their opinions.

 

An excellent point and one you should take to heart when judging theists.

 

What happened in 1917?

 

I have never heard of, from or about these "angry Atheists" until just now and I know of many Atheists. Would you mind providing some data beyond your personal, angry opinion on this?

 

Most atheists tend to substitute a religious belief in God with a religious belief in the state, so many atheists are not really without religion.

 

An Atheist does not believe in any Diety or Divine creatures.
An Agnostic questions belief in Diety, as did the Evil doer on the Cross next to Jesus.
To say an Agnostic Atheist is Oxymoronic.

 

Exactly, Philosophy can substitute for Religion.

 

"I'm laughing at the "Superior Intelligence" is that not a quote from "The wrath of Khan"
An episode from Star Trek T.O.S. as well as the Movie ?

 

The earliest states were indistinguishable from religions. And for thousands of years, states maintained this overtly religious complexion. It was only very recently, during the enlightenment, that a separation between "church and state" began to take hold. But despite this ostensible separation between state and religion, states retained all the ancient trappings of the state religion.

 

The "Wrath of Khan" is correct. That's an old flick.

 

I appreciate your remarks and have considered that myself. As it is I have friends who are both leftists and atheists and neither are of the clown car variety as you so aptly put it.

Thank you for your post.

 

An Atheist is someone who not believes in any form of spirituality. An Agnostics is someone who knows that Atheism is a spiritual belief on its own.

An Agnostics believes by the way nothing. Agnosticism is not a belief - it's a philosophy. An "agnostic atheist" would be someone, who not knows that god is not existing. He believes "only" that god is not existing.

 

No it is not. Were did you get the idea that questioning belief in Deity means you believe in Deity? That is just a bizarre assertion.

 

I am an Agnostic Atheist, so allow me to explain this very clearly from a position of authority.

I do not pretend I "Know" there is nothing we humans might consider "God", thus I am Agnostic.

I "KNOW" the things written about and created by man are NOT God, so I am Atheist in that respect.

The two positions actually fit well together so I am Atheist/Agnostic or an Agnostic Atheist.

 

In order to answer the OP clickbait question it is best to put it into context.

Everyone, without any exceptions, is born an atheist.

Atheism predates Christianity.

The American electorate is moving towards being non-affiliated with religions. 24% of the 2016 electorate self classified as non-affiliated.

Religions are losing adherents while the non-affiliated group is growing.

The demographic segments with the largest religious affiliations are all shrinking.

So it looks like the OP question is backwards. Instead it should have been can religion survive in a society where rational thought, diversity and an abhorrence of religious bigotry is becoming the norm for the population at large?

 

The real question is whether those who believe in supernatural beings ruling over us can exist with those who do not.

 

That doesn't require a belief in the supernatural, there are plenty of evil human beings to point at.

 

Sorry, dude, but I doubt your veracity. Either you are not being honest or you are blinding yourself to the fact atheists have started numerous threads on this and other forums simply to ridicule, mock and attack theists for being cowards, fantasizing about a "sky daddy", etc.

That said, I do agree that most atheists, like theists, mind their own business and rarely speak about their beliefs. The ones we see on forums are mostly the asshats in each group.

 

Why not history is full of evil persons.

 

Disagreed on that term just as I disagree on the 71 genders claimed on Facebook.

You either are or aren't.

 

Which isn't necessarily tied to the state.

 

How can an atheist who doesn't believe in the spiritual believe in a spiritual force like evil? It's a non sequitur.

As for the theists, there are two thoughts on "evil": that it is a force unto itself capable of affecting mortal souls or it is simply a lack of God's grace like cold is a lack of heat or, more appropriately, darkness is a lack of light. Therefore, "evil" isn't a force, it's a choice. A choice to step away from God's grace. It has no power by itself. The person makes the choice all on their own.

 

I don't believe it is a spiritual force. Human history is full of evil human beings. As you said a choice.

 

Where? Where is this place where the 5% of atheists in this country have congregated and outnumber the 80% christian majority somehow? Not only that but enough of that 5% are shitty enough human beings to engage in active discrimination against the christians.

Sounds like a victimhood fantasy to me. There arent enough Atheists in this country to discriminate against any other group. The idea that there are comes from butt hurt Christians who tangled with Atheist arguments about their faith and came out the loser, now they feel attacked. Thats how its always been and thats how it still is.

Atheists are reviled by the religious because you can't logically defeat their arguments against the existence of god and, no matter how faithful you are, the brain still operates on logic and stumbles over its own internal inconsistencies. The faithful convert that internal confusion and frustration into a feeling of being attacked in order to sidestep the conflict and refocus blame on something outside of themselves.