Mark Warner: Trump Aides’ Contacts With Russians Could Be ‘Coincidences,’ Not Collusion

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  1. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    More evidence that Warner is a partisan hack. So much so, as you saw in the YouTube video, he'll lie straight to our faces and put the good of his party before the good of the people.
     
  2. PrincipleInvestment

    PrincipleInvestment Well-Known Member

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    The whole "constitutional crisis" scenario is a joke. Presumably the president would appeal to the SCOTUS in the event Dems drated articles of impeachment if Trump exercised his constitutional authority (fired Mueller). First, Dems don't have the votes, and second, having the SCOTUS weigh in on constitutional intent isn't a crisis. It ain't uncharted territory.
     
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    So an op-ed is bastardized even further by a right wing web site, and were supposed to now prove it didn't happen ? The op-ed AND gatewaypundit used some six degrees of Kevin Bacon logic and now were supposed to disprove a conspiracy theory.

    The "insurance policy they were referring to was the polls. But it seems easier for the right to claim some "victimhood" to justify their claims.

    from your article:
    So Steele may have been getting some information out of someone who was leaking information to him from the Trump campaign and then the next step is "may have been working with sombody who was also working for the FBI". Good lord thats a Grand Canyon like leap there. No evidence, just 8 words added to a sentence to make yet another conspiracy.

    It is the right who is making the claim they have to prove the claim. This is america where we start off innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around.

    from the OP

    Yeah...OK.....
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, its called facts. You don't understand technology, yet you keep parroting something you cant defend. You've been politely shown how your wrong.
     
  6. AmericanNationalist

    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

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    The same committee that didn't hold Levy and Simpson to the fire when they refused to answer germane questions important to any investigation. It doesn't matter if its bi-partisan or not, it's just as corrupt as any other agency in this blatantly clear evidence of treason against the POTUS.

    They created and orchestrated a fake crime that never happened, they've tried to frame the POTUS and associates thereof, blackmailing and bankrupting those therein. This is so much bigger than Watergate now it's amazing. The first step to draining the swamp is to reveal how contemptible it is for the rule of law and oversight.
     
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    And now what will the faithful intolerant do? Their certainty, their smug behavior seems to be simply the temper tantrum of the century. And now, the left seem not only late, but unwilling to let go of their fantasy. And more, it seems orchestrated, like a carefully crafted conspiracy to blame shift from the actual crimes/collusions, that did in fact happen. And now that this foundation of fact has been started that will catalog this set of facts and behavior, just now, the liberal but hurt crowd are realizing that their oh so public temper tantrum will result in real investigation that will return the indictments against folks in the democratic party and the Hillary Campaign that actually did do illegal things. Frankly, I find the anticipation riveting.
     
  8. AmericanNationalist

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    So, that's your defense? That we would've learned about this corruption earlier? Keep in mind, Comey refused to inform Congress about opening up this charade until AFTER the election. Learning about this, is the exact same thing as Trump Tower. The two incidents are exactly the same. The framing of the questioning of Papadoulous and the atttempts of Trump Tower indeed reek of entrapment and in fact I speculated as such when we first learned of Trump Tower.

    The corruption therein of the FBI/DOJ is not a mystery. It requires critical thinking, analysis and who stands to gain and who stands to lose.

    Hint: The Trump Campaign stands more to lose to collude with Russia than not. The DOJ/FBI(especially Stozok who was so giddy for a 'REAL' investigation) has everything to gain with collusion.

    Unfortunately for the bastards, not only are citizens actively probing this corruption(you know, the ones who care) the idiots forgot to realize that in a court of law, the defense can raise objections which leads to further discoveries.

    It's easy to accuse anyone(the POTUS) of a crime. Much harder to withstand judicial oversight. That's where the traitors messed up.
     
  9. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL, depending on how old you are I have been in technology longer than many have been alive. You think conjecture is fact. You need to sharpen your reading and critical thinking skills. Simply put, there is no proof.
     
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    Absolutely Nothing of the sort.As we start turning the screws as to how
    and why Obama { Democrat Titular head } created a weaponized Deep State
    and it was Democrats who both Colluded,spied on American citizens and
    used pols like Warner to give the Mainstream media the desired credibility.
    The pock-marked Virgina Senator is in the thick of it.He is covering for his
    Democrats as we get closer and closer to how Trump and Co. were Framed.
    The proof of that.No More Adam Schiff { darling leaker for the MSM }.
    And this Stormy Daniels lawyer has a lot of explaining to do,as well.
    He's a former Democrat operative used by Obama's Chief-of-Staff
    Rahm Emanuel.Where does this media darling { since when is a lawyer
    a Media Darling } since Framing President Trump became Fashionable.
    Michael Avenatti has gotten Too Cute By Half way too often.
    Where gonna drudge up his connections now.Who funds him.
    What party is he working for ? And for how much. ?
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Very crucial to keep that in mind.That we still operate in most any court of law
    with rules of procedure.No more Obama gets his way.Plus the Highway.
    Them days are over.Each week alt-right sites and guys like Tom Fitton
    and Joe Di Genova and Devon Nunes are uncovering major crimes that
    were perpetrated by Obama's Agency heads like John Brennan,Samantha Power
    and Susan Rice.Also Loretta Lynch.It's gonna be The Biggest House of Cards
    in American History once it falls.
    And Fall it surely will.
     
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    Ive been an IT Engineer for over 25 years. I have certifications in Solaris, Linux (RH), I'm certified in Bulk Email Deliverability, and Email Security Practices. Im also a member of Infraguard. And i did some consulting work for ReturnPath. I know email.

    They did NOT need the server for forensic analysis. There was nothing on it that would have been of value. We know how they got in, the FBI released the phishing emails. And the main source of the released emails was from John Podesta, who was not even on the DNC server, he was on a gmail account ;)
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You should prolly stay off of Info Wars. Facts don't live there ;)
     
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    Why do righties hide behind this? Was it on FOX?
    The FBI got a data dump from that computer. The hardware has no value in solving the crime.
     
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    From Papa's charging documents:

    "On or about April 26, 2016, defendant PAPADOPOULOS met the Professor for breakfast at a London hotel. During this meeting, the Professor told defendant PAPADOPOULOS that he had just returned from a trip to Moscow where he had met with high-level Russian government officials. The Professor told defendant PAPADOPOULOS that on that trip he (the Professor) learned that the Russians had obtained "dirt" on then-candidate Clinton. The Professor told defendant PAPADOPOULOS, as defendant PAPADOPOULOS later described to the FBI, that "They [the Russians] have dirt on her"; "the Russians had emails of Clinton"; "they have thousands of emails."

    https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/30/politics/george-papadopolous-trump-guilty/index.html

    The good news is Mueller has Papadopolis.
     
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    ronv Well-Known Member

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    They always save the best for last.
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    Seems Mueller has a pretty large conflict of interest. The Hill is reporting the story. Turns out that Mueller has his own ties with a set of Russians, was directly involved in the recruitment and authorization of the use of a Russian oligarch himself. OOOpsies...

    This one looks pretty problematic for Mueller. And wouldn't you know, ms Clinton, McCabe, et al were also part of the party, including an allegation that ms Clinton was the one who personally FU a negotiation to release a CIA operative. Yikes...
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because you know facts ... eh Bub.
    Like Porky Pig knows how to sign-off.
    " Th-th-th-that's all folks! "
     
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    It surely will. Why it's even been uncovered that Mueller was John Kerry's captain on their prep school lacrosse team.

    Dirty Bob Mueller is the Clown Prince of Federal Law Enforcement
     
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    The other interesting thing is that Papadopoulos himself hasn't even been arranged for trial. Because there are things worth questioning. As an example, what's easily demonstrable from the charges is that Papadopoulos has no significant information himself. He was FED information by the British Professor. This is the dude that should've actually been charged and examined(you know, if Mueller were serious.)

    I want to know who told the Professor that the Russians had 'emails of Clinton'. I want to know very specifically whether the Professor had even SEEN these emails. Given everything we know now, my attention is far more towards the Professor than that of Papadoulous 'lying' about this meeting taking place.

    If the professor is closely examined, following everything else about this sham we can expect to find more unpleasant surprises of corruption.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Theres a reason their called "ALT-right" ;)
     
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    Set up!

    Mueller's FBI Worked Closely with Russian Oligarch, Broke Law
     
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    He will leave the charges "hanging" as long as he can as they are his insurance policy that Papa will cooperate. If Papa is a good boy he can expect little or no damage to his freedom.

    I think we would all like to know that.
     
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    I too am in IT and your post is full of BS!
     
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    Hey, he's given the guy multiple chances to sit down for a little one-on-one chin wag and try and give answers to any suspicions Mueller might have and avoid the whole grand jury route....Skip that step at your own peril, Spanky....
     

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