>>MOD WARNING<<What will you folk on the right do if Mueller "throws the book at Trump" on the basis

And so I asked what right wingers would do, -not lefties.

 

Mueller's investigation is just over a year in and I don't think that Flynn, Gates or Manafort would agree with your assertion that he still has nothing. The Senate and Congressional hearings were a giant farce with Grassley and Nunez blocking any attempts to get to the truth. Mueller's investigation may wrap up in the next 5-6 months but could take a couple more years which would still be less than Watergate, Iran Contra or a Whitewater.

 

Any. Obstruction of justice maybe?

 

Conspiracy or obstruction of justice are the 2 that come to mind. But you might think about money laundering and extortion based on Cohen.

 

If the Trump allegations are charged officially, report is damning, etc then yes I'll accept it. I'll accept anything with a legitimate basis. What I won't do, is accept anything because it comes from a ranked official for the government. They can blame themselves for that stance.

 

There is a threshold for me, because Mueller clearly has a political motivation. If Mueller comes up with proof that Trump or his campaign "colluded" with the Russians, or obstructed Mueller, or there was perjury, then I don't accept it and I will support Trump even more. Why? Because that proof can be manufactured by Mueller, in fact by any crafty prosecutor, and its done all the time.

If Mueller has objective proof of a serious crime then that's different (and no, I do not call "collusion" a crime because it is not, and you cannot "obstruct" when there is no crime and when the "investigation" is a witch hunt, and its not perjury when someone makes an honest misstatement or was tricked).

For example, if Mueller can show Trump wiretapped Hilary's campaign headquarters, then that's a crime. Oh, wait, that means obama committed a crime, doesn't it. Bad example.

How about this, if Mueller can show Trump used federal funds to spy on Hilary, and used federal employees to impede his opponents campaign, then that's a crime. Oh, wait, that means obama committed a crime, doesn't it. Bad example.

How about this, if Mueller can show that a foreign govt bribed Trump to enable the sale of govt owned critical technology, then that's crime. Oh, wait, that means Hilary committed a crime, doesn't it. Bad example.

Last try, if Mueller can show that Trump grossly and negligently mishandled classified information, then that's crime. Oh, wait, that means Hilary committed a crime, doesn't it. Oh well. Maybe you can provide an example.​

 

As I previously stated, Mueller has a political motive. Anything that he comes up with that can be manufactured, I will reject and support Trump even more than I do now. Conspiracy is so vague its meaningless, and is too malleable to be trusted in the hands of a political drone like Mueller. Obstruction is also vague, and I agree with Trump that fighting back and defending yourself is not obstruction, and that there is no obstruction charge applicable when its a witch hunt.

As to the entire Cohen thing, I don't care. We all know Trump is a womanizer (but he's not a rapist like Clinton), probably paid off a number of women (but not threatened them and sent cops to harass them them like Clinton did to his "bimbos"). I don't like that behavior, but that behavior wont change my support of Trump.

 

Running the universe is such a tough job...

 

You have to admit, trump is a great role model for children right?

 

I'll wait till we see it.

But if it occurs then we'll have President Pence.

 

We already have more than enough to impeach him now and not one Republican has started to, I think that's your answer right there.

Impeachment is a legislative process, not a judicial one and the "high Crimes and Misdemeanors" is whatever Congress says it is. Impeachment is really just a firing from the job of POTUS, nothing more. It doesn't put anyone in jail, or fine them, or anything but just says they are no longer fit to be POTUS and should go do something else. The evidence supporting Trump being utterly unfit is obvious to anyone with eyes and even Congresscritters should be able to see it, but they haven't and won't given their present record. More power to them IMO, this misguided loyalty to an utter gaping ******* who has demonstrated he will throw any of them under the bus along with the nation is going to lose them their seats in the end. Americans may put up with many things from their leaders but being completely subservient and fawning lickspittles to a manifest reprobate is not one of them. If this is demonstrated well enough in November we may see the remaining Republicans wise up and try to impeach Trump to save themselves. This is why we have to vote ALL the Republicans out, even including any we might like for other reasons

 

I will accept it but you should prepare for this not going the way you want, and accepting that.

 

AS we were trolling along,,,,
I concern myself about things that are actually likely, not those that are little more than figments of leftist imagination.

 

(Scratching head) Welllllll . . . although your O.P. is along the lines of 'What if Barack Obama had been a genuine Commander-in-Chief and took care of the ISIS infestation inside Iraq as easily and as casually as President Trump ordered his generals to do?' But for giggles let's take at face value your patently absurd premise.

If the leftist-allied RINO, Mueller, actually finds significant AND illegal Trump/Russian collusion dirt proving that Trump STOLE the presidential election from Hillary Clinton or even tried -- just as she and Barack Obama both TRIED and failed to do where Trump was concerned -- then I for one would cheer as Mueller and the justice system tore Trump a new one. Then I'd INSIST that a real investigation be held over Hillary and her ILLEGAL e-mail server and over the various patently illegal things that Obama did while in office.

But then again, none of that is going to happen since colluding RINOs and Leftists have been spying on and then investigating Trump since he was a mere presidential candidate and have still come up with zip, zero. nada, nothing. Still it was an interesting 'What if' leftist fantasy scenario.

 

Ummmmm . . . the actual spying on Trump -- illegally authorized by Barack Obama --began while Trump was still a presidential candidate; and so, yes, roughly two years.

 

Here a a couple of hypotheticals. See what you would think.
Lets say Trump Jr. did strike a deal with the Russians on when to release wikileaks information in exchange for influrancing his dad on sanctions?

Lets say Trump told Hope Hicks we need to cover up the Trump Tower meeting or Jr. will get in trouble. Obstruction?
Or
Lets say Trump told Sessions and Rosenstein (at the same time) you guys have to give me something to stop Comey from digging into "the Russian thing."

To me Stormy is just cheap entertainment, but lets say Cohen was talking to Trump about changing policy in exchange for the money and Trump knew it.
Or
If Trump punished Qatar in order to get them to finance Kushner's building.

 

Solid evedence of what?

That trump colluded with the russians to steal the election from hillary?

Mueller would have to make up evidence to prove that

 

The fbi and other agency’s have been investigating for 2 years now and not 1 of the 3 makes you mentioned have been charged with anything that remotely relates to trump, his campaign or Russian collusion. Are you capable of admitting that?

 

IMPEACH!!!

 

Watch the house not impeach.

 

That's what I think.

You can't indict a sitting POTUS and you can't impeach a sitting POTUS with approval numbers like President Trump has.

Loser flamebait thread.

 

Sorry, so far I haven't seen anything impeachable brought out. I don't see where his record shows Trump to be totally unfit. Trump is doing the things we elected him to do. Although we don't like his tweets and we would like him to just shut up, we want him to keep doing what he's doing. It sure isn't what the Liberal Democrats want, but we had enough of them with Obama's policies.

 

A. That remains to be seen..

B. THAT is pure nonsense. Trump has approval numbers in the low 40s.

Ummmm huh?

 

He could shoot a baby in the face on live TV and you "wouldn't see anything impeachable"