Why Sweden’s feminists are completely insane

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  1. Wildjoker5

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    Feminism is fascism of the sexes. Its called projection sweetheart, to believe normal nationalism/fascism is misogynistic when its about protecting the boarders and not the difference of sexes, then its very telling what idiocentric behavior you believe in. Women can, and have stood with men to protect their nation, even more so today. Women are out there for BOTH ANTIFA and the Alt-right (white identitarians left wingers), and both groups are fascists.
     
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    For goodness sake. Who says this?

    The only people of importance it would appear to you are white straight males.
    I don't know what intersectionality crap is. Please enlighten me.

    what?

    What?

    This sounds more like White Nationalist thinking and American Men believing they are second class because they are losing their majority status and it is true they will lose their white privilege. That is what they are frightened of.[/QUOTE]
     
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    You seriously reject the hierarchy of intersectionality?

    Never once said that, nice straw man.

    NOUN
    intersectionalities (plural noun)
    1. the interconnected nature of social categorizations such as race, class, and gender as they apply to a given individual or group, regarded as creating overlapping and interdependent systems of discrimination or disadvantage.
    Sure, cause no one else can believe in the same power structure as white nationalist? Do you really think humans are really that creative? White nationalist believe you are "better" based on the purity of the white lineage. Intersectionality believes you are "better" based off how many oppression points you can muster up based off race, age, sex, gender, trans, sexuality, disabilities, religion, etc.
     
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    Sweden is now the rape capitol of Europe thanks to leftist ideologies like these so called "feminist" are spouting.

    These women have no credibility whatsoever and certainly are in no position to be speaking about women's rights.
     
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    Given that I have told you I do not even know what it is, that is making things up.
    You are complaining about my saying
    yet here is your post which was not a reply to any other post


    it gives no reference to anything else. Yes you did as I said in respect to you eliminating from the discourse males who are gay which was what I first said and then of course those who are non white which I added later. Your discourse with no reference except this suppose 'intersectioinality' was only about white straight males.


    Oh please.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/30/intersectional-feminism-jargon

    If you are using it to single out 'white straight males' who you claim are the most successful in the world. I expect something a great deal more connected to what you said not a dictionary definitioin of something which from my very quick look I can see has no immediate meaning. If you feel what you call intersectionality crap
    that is not what you gave from the dictionary so clearly intersectionality was not what you were talking about.
    probably not. Only white nationalists are just interested in white straight males and how they are apparently a decreasing species who white females are traitors to and make babies with non white males.

    You believe white supremacy is creative?

    I don't believe a word of that. Just sounds like more of the white nationalist stuff which I will admit some American WWC are buying up without being aware that is what they are doing.

    anyway your white nationist stuff moaning is boring me. I have other things to do.
     
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    Better jut string these women up eh? Or keep them in the home cooking you meals with the help of a club.
     
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    Better marrying them off to muslims.

    Then they may have a real appreciation for what women's rights are really about.
     
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    Nationalist part like the AFD or FN have women as leader. Nationalism changed. We're not in the 50's anymore.

    Women like men should do what they want to do. If they want to fund a traditionnal family based complementary roles, they should be free to do so. If they are lesbian, they should be free to date women.

    I don't care of feminism, I just wish that women of my family to be as happy as possible.

    Feminism and LGBT are doomed in western europe.
     
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    That's just it.

    These feminazi's are not interested in women doing what they want to do to be happy.

    They are only interested in women doing what they think women should be doing to be happy.

    Sweden is at the forefront of the muslim rape culture.

    How's that working out for the women's rights in Sweden?
     
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    This thread remains a misogynist thread and people are showing themselves as one would expect.

    Not sure about that. Palin was well in with a group which was without question misogynist. It is part of the extreme right ethnic nationalists fascist way of going where the strong male is always top. These groups have an uncanny way in which their position seems to always be the same and that is anti gay, anti 'the other' and women only fit for the home and whose position should be abused rather than argued which has been what has been going on in this thread from the OP. It does sometimes happen that women get involved and can even stay in that position but I would not expect that to remain for the majority of women who join them. They will soon learn that they should stay in the home, that their man knows better than them and that they must stand behind him and think what he wants and do what he wants - or else. I think American Christian women were going along with their men when they started this racket in the 70's or 80's and I think Palin was herself the leader of a group which nonetheless expected women to bow down to men. This is much more advanced in the US coming from the Christian Right but there is no doubt in my mind these women are right and that is what ethnic nationalism would do to women so they are doing the right thing warning people before it is too late. They know their stuff and in the exact same way as I would expect them to say that, I would expect the far right as in this thread to belittle them....in an interesting way.. by blaming them for not joining their hate campaign against another ethnicity. All true to form.

    Far right groups have a tendency to pretend to be different to what they are to get people to join them. Hence Le Penn gave up antisemitism and took up Muslim hatred because antisemitism was not acceptable in France but Muslim hatred was. Also they have through out the past few years pretended not to be anti gay or anti women but they are and it always comes out. The far right ethnic nationalist people always hate gays, women and 'the other' and now is no different. It is necessary to build up their big ego of the strong straight man who is centre of their universe - themselves.
     
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    LOL .....

    You extremist are all the same.
     
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    I hope you're not calling me misogynic because I have very few patience for that kind of insults.

    I can't say that kind of individuals don't exist, but you're just in full fantasy if you think that all right wingers are like that. Furthermore, there is women who like too to be able to stay at home to care of their children. A lot of women who combine a job and maternity do burns out and depression. Women were encouraged to work in name of emancipation, the reality was to have more workforce and lower salaries.
    I believe in equality between men and women, I don't believe men and women are the same. The traditionnal model had a lot of flaws, and for sure some men abused of women, however it's a model who survivec centuries. Nodoways model is highly unstable and is dying : western women do very few children and are slowly replace by african/arabic women who live in a traditionnal model. I doubt that nowodays model is extremly respectfull of women, even if it give them some precious indenpendance, I can credit that.

    The left organized an invasion in France to have a faithfull huge army of voters to be able to win the elections and to lower salaries. Le Pen was against that and against the destruction of french civilization. French civilization is dead and the invasion occured, they failed. Islam isn't compatible with our culture, and the left is directing us toward a civil war. They will be responsible of hundred of thousand of death, if not millions. They didn't understood that unity of a nation is precious. They wanted ethnically diverse countries like Lebanon and Rwanda, they will get the same results as in Lebanon and Rwanda.

    I don't care of gay people, good for them if they can marry now. I always gave my position : yes women are as worth than men, they're not second class citizen, however I disagree with the fact that men and women are the same and should wish for the same roles in societies. Furthermore I doubt that this civilizationnal model is working and has any future.
    I already have shown that the number two of the FN was openly gay. Yes, it created some tensions inside the partis, but the parti had too his biggest score with him. So no, most far right people don't care anymore of gay people.

    I already show you the right way to write "Le Pen", if you want to look stupid, it's not my problem. If you think I care if you miswrite the name, well you're wrong, I don't care, it's jut unfortunate for you. You can continue to write "Le Penn", I won't correct you anymore. You don't seems blind or stupid, just stubborn and believing in dreams and illusion.
     
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    No wonder,

    1. Most feminists are hateful misandristic nutcases
    2. Most Swedish people are marxist idiots.

    Combined (which is often the case) the outcome is complete madness.
     
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    That about sums it up.

    I don't think there is any other explanation of why a country would forfeit it's sovereignty and allow a foreign invader in to rape their women and children.

    This is the insanity of the Left.
     
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    i forgot that brown people living in the same country as you automatically repeals womens rights legislation
     
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    Only if you consider rape "repealing women's rights".

    The Swedish police recorded the highest number of rapes - about 63 per 100,000 inhabitants - of any force in Europe, in 2010. The second-highest in the world.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-19592372

    That was 8 years ago.

    How many women in Sweden have been raped to date thanks to these beloved "brown people" you refer to.
     
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    That happens here too. Just treat your woman like a queen and never lift a finger for any other woman. Problem solved.

    Not helping is the solution.
     
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    that's because sweden's definition of rape also includes non-penetrative sexual assaults whereas other countries define rape solely as the forcible penetration of a vagina by a penis. when you account for differing legal definitions across countries in statistics, things shake out much differently.
     
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    Yeah .....

    I know that's what the fake news MSM is telling you to parrot ......

    But, that does not explain the sky rocketing rape crisis in other European countries that have been invaded by muslims.

    Leaked document says 2,000 men allegedly assaulted 1,200 German women on New Year’s Eve

    But, keep parroting that nonsense if it makes you feeeeel better.
     
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    yeah, okay, everything you disagree with is the MSM. i don't own a TV. i don't use facebook. if my printer beeps weird i'm liable to shoot it.
     
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    Legislation is unusefull if unapplied. Big words are nice, reality is better.
     
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    I have been very clear that I agree with the women in Sweden that ethnic Nationalist extreme right fascists are misogynists.

    we are not talking about right wingers we are talking about extreme right ethnic nationalists and they very much are.

    Nope women work for money. The choice to further their career as far as they can ought to be a choice for women as well as men but equality has not gone that far for most. Indeed I heard someone say the other day, and it was a man, that moving toward equality for women stopped some decades ago. I think this may well be true. At the same time I think women are beginning to get an awareness of that so that could stir change.

    A person may choose of her own free will if she has enough money to stay in the home and look after the children. That in no way says a woman is choosing to be a second class person subservient to her man which of course is what the ethnic nationalist far right extremists want and would force on society if given the chance.

    A lot of women stuck in the home suffer from depression as well. A lot of men suffer from depression and burn out as well.

    No. Clearly if, as you appear to be imagining, there ever was a time when only men worked then you are only talking about men having less money than women so that would appear to be an argument for women to stay in the home so that men can get more money and women have to be dependent on them.

    What made the change was us moving out of social democracy into neo liberalism. At the current time we find ourselves in much the same situation as we were in prior to WW2 - long time depression due to economic system which does not work, lack of trust for the elites and a massive influx of refugees. In the US they also have the reality that white people will not be the majority for much longer. Given the elite politicians are no longer trusted that leaves the door open for others and this time we have the far right like we had in the 30's rising. We don't have communism but we have some voices, not so strong speaking for social democracy. Oh of course the other people who the extreme right hate are the left and that is more than obvious in forum posts. Now the thing is, those who cannot manage to change things, the political elite are beginning to be shunned. That leaves as it did in the 30's the extreme right ethnic nationals and todays social democrats.The question is which way will we go? I was reading something the other day which suggested it depended on which way the lower middle class chose which would win. Clearly the far right absolutely hate the left because they like things like social justice and human rights which they have no intention of having as part of their world. In the UK our chance of Social Democracy lies with Corbyn and like in the US with Sanders we see our Government far more trying to destroy them than the far right - the elite will tolerate far right ethnic nationalism if it has to but not the left and in the UK, the Tories can flip to the far right themselves. For this reason if they get back into Government I like many in Scotland will be going for Independence to avoid being part of an extreme right country though I would stay in the UK as a social democracy.

    OK so you are maybe half way towards the ethnic right view - maybe more.

    Basically this is hogwash or at least your belief on what the situation will be in the future will be. What Western women did escape from is Traditional ways. What the far right want them to return to is traditional ways. What the future is likely to offer is very little work for everyone. What people are talking about is I cannot remember the name but everyone getting a wage for being alive... and then extra for working. My daughter likes the idea of that. She would spend more time with the kids of which she has made 3 and she would also work. She believes from a conference she was at a week or two ago that she would work 3 or 4 days a week...but of course it depends on how much this wage for everyone is. We are going into a very different world. The far right extremist nationals are just choosing a pretty hateful route. We have been there before and it will be the same or very similar so no thanks again. You may feel as a man it will give you a preferable position. Other people have been saying how great it is that Spain after their new election has a mass of women in places of power. We, Scotland, are working for half women half men in our Parliament. Only men, especially men who believe themselves strong and superior as Nationalist men do only lead to war and abuse.

    this is just conspiracy theory/far right propaganda.

    Le Penn is an ethnic nationalist far right extremist and of course she would not like any non white French but you already have quite a lot of them so how are you going to get rid of them?

    Really. We never got news of that.

    There has been no invasion.

    who failed?

    that is just your antipathy towards Muslims. It is just like many in France had before for Jews. I think Jews would be next once you got rid of the Muslims. How will you do that?

    absolute nonsense. You are the person always talking about civil war. We used to have a different French poster. He did not post like you.

    You are the person always going on about this civil war that is going to happen in France. Things like civil war come out of thinking and in this case it would appear to be yours but hark how you blame the left and then talk of civil war. As I said as well as women, gays and 'the other' the extreme right hate the left. Is it them you are expecting to kill?



    So you are saying you already have antipathy for gays? Good for them if they can marry now you say. What do you see for their future.

    You, as a man do not have the right to tell women what they will do. Your seeming belief that you can do that betrays your desire for them to be dependent on you which would mean 2nd class citizens. You have already made clear you do not want them to work.

    Why if it was not a problem would it have created problems in the party. Far right parties sometimes like their token 'other' whether that is a woman, gay, or even a Muslim or Jew. It is the defence they use to say 'not us'. It has an even thinner veneer than American Liberal Democracy was. In the US fascism if it succeeds will be Christian. Most of those who join the outside of the far right soon develop a belief that they are a Christian. Do you see the society likely to develop in France and get rid of all these lefties and Muslims would be Christian?
     
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    again, having a hard time seeing how the presence of more brown people makes a difference
     
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    and it has ten million times been reported that the reason why they have more recorded rapes is because of the way they record them. One of the differences being that each time a woman is raped it is recorded so if it happened 30 times with the same man, say her husband, it would be recorded as 30 rapes. In other ways as well Sweden is far more strict on what it calls rape and these changes happened about 8 years ago. Trying to blame that on Muslims is just the old one - it was the black guy..it was rape. All heard before.
     
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