Trump orders creation of a standalone Space Force

Once the mission does expand THEN we establish a new branch. Until then, it’s a totally unnecessary move and does nothing but establish a redundant EXPENSIVE bureaucracy to cover a mission the USAF already handles just fine.

 

Yes. Post away.

 

Gosh! You have become president and so you know these things? Wow! I am impressed. But assuming that the average leftist now is just as ignorant and impractical as ever they were -- during the train wreck years of the Obama administration -- perhaps I shan't listen to someone exhibiting classic Trump Derangement Syndrome on this issue. Trump proposed something proactive and intelligent in nature; and so it MUST be bad. Sheesh!

 

Maybe the president knows something we don't. Could the government know about the existance hostile extraterrestrial aliens? Too bad Trump doesn't get along with Kimmel. Kimmel has a history of asking past presidents about the existence of extraterrestrial aliens and what they know. Trump may have been the first president to give a straight answer.

 

Orrrrrrrr we could do what's necessary now and be prepared for what is probably going to crop up later on. Proactive -- what a concept!

 

And how exactly do you know what there will be no need for? That is a big assumption!

 

Ah, you are a flat-earther, correct?

 

If the Space Force was a necessity, if the USAF Space Command couldn’t handle the mission, don’t you think Mattis would support the creation of a Space Force?

He doesn’t. There is zero evidence that the Air Force is not up to handling the mission.

Or are you saying James Mattis is a Leftist suffering from Trump derangemet syndrome?

There is zero reason at this point to establish a separate branch that will require almost as many personnel just to run it’s totally redundant bureaucracy and logistics chains as the <30,000 personnel who currently do the mission.

(BTW, the Coast Guard only has 90,000 personnel)

 

Military assets in space are a space force. Duh.

 

When the mission for USAF Space Command grows larger than the smallest US military branch (the Coast Guard with 90,000 personnel), then the establishment of a seperate branch with the attendant redundant bureaucracy will be worth it.

 

advanced aliens space force would clean out clocks in a war , we are better of to surrender and plea mercy from them

 

No. They are assets controlled by USAF Space Command.

 

It isn’t necessary now and there is zero evidence it will be necessary anytime in the near future.

 

Makes sense. The US is running out of earthly places to destroy.

 

Probably true. I agree that any civilization capable of traveling here probably has technology well beyond ours. Maybe we have been reverse engineering their tech from Roswell.

 

if they did crash they were not the very advanced ones, to worry about as much.

 

90k for the entire US coastline? You realize we don't have that much in space and that any force going into space would be so highly specialized it reads like a science fiction novel?
That means training time. Which means you're going to have to train them a whole lot on space and NOT DYING IN IT, and WORKING IN IT WHILE NOT DYING, and that means you're going to miss out on training for other things.
Those that go into the space force will be space force worthy only, hence their own branch.

 

You know the USAF runs its own astronaut program right? And also that almost the entirety of Space Command’s assets in space are unmanned and will remain that way for the foreseeable future, right?

There is basically no job in space that would have a military function that a robot can’t do better and more efficiently.

 

https://www.news.com.au/technology/...t/news-story/76554886bd4f48b19f24b06237d8f1ae

Obviously you didn't think I could source that claim. You could have easily found this information yourself instead of playing games.

 

A. Not a space based weapon.
B. The USAF and US Navy both already have the same capability.

So thank you for showing you don’t know what you are talking about.

And I wasn’t playing games. You made a claim, it’s on you to back it up.

 

I think it’s interesting that not a single Trump supporter in this thread has said anything about Trump’s unconstitutional actions here.

The President has no authority to establish a new branch of the military. Congress does.

 

Don't you think it is simply a response to this?

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/14/rus...estructive-space-weapons-us-intelligence.html

Why such hateful attacks on him for something that honestly seems like a good idea. Did you say the same thing when we created a "Cyber Division"?

 

I didn't say it was a space based weapon. What I said is China has already used a military weapon in earth orbit. No one else has done this. I know what I'm talking about. You didn't read my post carefully and then when exposed tried to move the goal posts, something that won't work for you.

You should try to argue what your opponent actually says instead of creating strawmen, especially with me.

 

THIS is a good point, wish the OP would have started with this instead of just personal attacks.

Did Obama put CyberCommand through congress before it was initiated in 2009/2010?

If the answer is no, this is simply a hypocritical anti Trump attack ad. If it was run through congress, then I agree that Trump should do the same and put it through there

 

Cyber Command was created to coordinate efforts across all branches because all branches have a large cyber threat as they all rely on computers even down to a tactical level.

The Air Force handles 90+% of all US military space activity. It doesn’t have the need for joint capability and effort like Cyber defense does.