Child Separation "Issue" Is Democrat Scam

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  1. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Not true. They happened, we just didn't see them. The difference with what is happening now, is that the agency is effecting the policy on all illegals.

    The only reason this is getting 24hr breathless coversge, is to hammer Trump with it. A secondary reason might be to drown out other reports.
     
  2. Kode

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    Prove it. You keep saying this. Prove it. And be sure to use a RELIABLE source. Also, keep in mind what MY objections are which you are claiming to refute. Don't stray to some "convenient" alternate argument.
     
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    So,you should be able to speak, but nobody else?That's a dictatorship attitude, you know that, right?
    Now, I'm not a GOP,so you go right ahead & bash the GOP all you want, it is actually comical to see you all eat your own.
    Yeah,sure,just like trump himself, blame OBAMA
    ,When trump is not blaming OBAMA he's blaming someone else, nothing is his fault, he doesn't mean to lie, he doesn't mean to be cruel, he doesn't mean to cheat on his wife, he doesn't mean to file bankruptcy,he doesn't mean to cheat people, nope,OBAMA made him do it!
    Take the blinders off
     
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    What am I scamming?
    No,the shame is not on me, well,check that--the shame is on our country!
     
  5. Bluebird

    Bluebird Well-Known Member

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    Are you a Russian bot? Or just a trump troll?
     
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    You're not aware of the hiding of the immigration activities during Obama's time ? You've got to be kidding. even Democrat congressmen have discussed it openly on camera. I gave you one source .I could have given you 10.

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/16/dem-rep-child-migrant-crisis/
     
  8. rocker65

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    The Bushes aren't GOP. They aren't conservative. They are Mexico ass-kissers and illegal alien lovers, and traitors to America.

    As for Trump, he's dealing with 2 laws. One passed in 1911 (US Code 8 Section 1325) and the 1997 law from Flores vs Reno banning kids from being jailed with parents in adult jails. So his job is enforce the laws, not make them, or revise them. So he has to arrest illegals who cross the border without inspection, and when jailing them, he can't put their kids with the parents. So he's putting them in very fine, comfortable facilities,that American kids of jailed parents would love to go to.

    If you can understand this, then YOU will not have the "blinders" on.
     
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    Yet that's exactly what Bilbo Clinton did.

    Wrong again....Just because Sessions decided on Zero Tolerance. Doesn't mean he created some new law.

    The Zero Tolerance is being used with the Law that is in affect. That's what the leftness can't figure out.
     
  10. Bluebird

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    That is incorrect, but you already know this,KODE has brought you links & it has been explained to you several times over, but that is what Russian bots & trolls do, just argue for the sake of arguing---
    You said--"Bushes aren't GOP,"LOL---comical----
    If this issue disturbs you, that is your conscious speaking---it should disturb you--it is wrong-it is inhumane---full stop---
    Were done here---bye--
     
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    This child separation nonsense IS a democrat issue. It is a created phony crisis used for distraction. Let me illustrate:
    A roaring economy
    Denuke talks with NK
    Lowest unemployment in years
    The Mueller investigation imploding
    The midterm elections coming up......Look, a squirrel!
    giphy-8.gif

    It is sad the dems only have faux issues to push.
     
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    Yeah, I heard that too,what a sad self inflicted shame--
     
  13. Kode

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    Bwaaahaaahaaahaaa yourself. You didn't bother to look into that "Obama" report. (Remember that during Obama's term there were many, many children coming to the border unaccompanied.)

    "Although expedited and reinstatement of removal have existed for years, as families fleeing violence in Central America began making headlines in 2014, the Obama Administration implemented an aggressive deterrence policy designed to stop families from seeking protection in the United States. The Administration prioritized all recent border crossers as enforcement priorities and vastly increased the use of expedited removal and detention of mothers arriving with children. The Administration has also been discouraging families from making the dangerous journey through ad campaigns, failing to recognize that families may flee to Mexico, the United States, or other countries as a last resort for protection. As the use of expedited removal, reinstatement of removal, and detention against families and adults seeking asylum has increased, so have the risks of separation. While the government could release family members together, either to relatives in the community or through alternatives to detention (ATD), it often prioritizes their detention. Some mothers are detained with their minor children in family detention settings, but are still separated from other family members who are detained elsewhere."

    You cannot equate what happened under Obama with what is happening now.
     
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    Yup and here we are stopping thousands and allowing million to roam free because they're running away from low prices, polite and educated people :)
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    Did I mention polite and educated?
     
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  16. Kode

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    Right. It's a RULE and it is being implemented. And that is why Trump is a damned liar when he says "the Democrats need to change it". IT'S NOT THE DEMOCRATS' RULE.

    This is NEW and it's wrong.
     
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    Can you imagine what the world is saying about this? I expect they are worried about a new, rising fascism.
     
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    We have already had this discussion SMW-
     
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    It's true, and both receive those services in the U.S. only I'm going off this little blurb

    and figure you know very little about Mexico and you clearly don't know much about foster care and the system ;)
     
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    Yeah, I just heard Spain has finally taken in the boat of refugee's that other countries have refused,Good on them, because they can't rely on America helping with anything anymore!
     
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    One doesn't need to get that far from Hicksville, USA to find some para-military clowns. These cars looks suspiciously new.
     
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    It is the Demos rule.....quit blaming Trump for what Bilbo Clinton did. What Bush did. What your Special Man did.

    Face the facts you want illegal alien children locked up in jail cells with their parents.....or you want Trump to say **** US Law.

    Which one is it?

    The lefts Catch 22 has backfired on them.....another failure they can claim.
     
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    Oh you are also naïve to the fact that stolen U.S. cars are resold in Mexico? Holy balls bro, no offense, but when was the last time you left the house :roll:

    BTW, those Hicksville folks, they shoot cans, those other polite, educated guys, they shoot those people running over here!
     
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    Now you're saying stupid things out of desperation. Read this. It's Sessions Rule that you said is a "Demos rule".
    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/atto...-zero-tolerance-policy-criminal-illegal-entry
     
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    Sessions rule is not creating a Law. Sessions Rule is applied to the law that is in Effect. Just because your Special man didn't follow the Law. Doesn't mean Trump should do the same thing.


    Obama administration tried to keep ‘quiet’ how many children illegally crossed border....


    Rep. Henry Cuellar, D-Texas, said the Obama administration attempted to keep “quiet” about how many unaccompanied minors were crossing the border and that children were being held in detention centers.

    “There were large numbers of people coming in,” Cuellar said in an interview with CNN on Saturday. “The Obama administration was trying to keep this quiet.”

    According to the Washington Post, nearly 70,000 unaccompanied minors were apprehended at the border in 2014.

    DHS officials verified Friday that 1,995 minors were taken away from accompanying adults while attempting to enter the U.S. between ports of entry between April 19 and May 31.

    Minors who are split from their families as a result of the zero-tolerance policy will be housed by Health and Human Services.
    But Cuellar pointed out that not all children crossing the border are being separated because some come alone.

    “It’s not a matter that every single child we have in those centers are being separated because some of them are coming in alone,” Cuellar said.

    He also pointed to immigrants bringing children across the border who are not their blood relatives in order to take advantage of U.S. immigration loopholes, which have since been rectified by Trump's zero-tolerance policy.


    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...crossed-border
     
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