Child Separation "Issue" Is Democrat Scam

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  1. Bluebird

    Bluebird Well-Known Member

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    Nope,incorrect, I was responding to another poster, you jumped in without knowing the context!--just saying!
     
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    Shouldn't the Progressive Left consider these children too? What has the Progressive Left done about those children since they became the arbiter of child care? If it's all about the children shouldn't the issue include the families and children of the incarcerated. What about the more than half million indigenous people, who are either Australian Aborigines or Torres Strait Islanders, incarcerated, not to mention their families and children? Shouldn't your government be taking care of them as you would want us to care for those unaccompanied and accompanied children by families?
    BTW, before you pass judgement and comment on what we do in America, clean up your own house.

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    Australia’s Gulag Archipelago - The New York Times
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    Aug 31, 2016 · The influx of people crossing the sea to find refuge in Australia thus became a partisan issue in which the two major parties, Liberal and Labor, competed to pander to anxieties about immigration. Asylum seekers who had arrived by boat were demonized for “jumping the queues” by paying smugglers, ahead of people in refugee camps in other countries who had applied for …
     
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    They try to do that now bit until and if the even can we put the kids in jail with the parent?
     
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    OK butbin the meantime we have 10,000 kids in dentention that a judge is saying can only be held 30 days. So what do we do with them? The ones with parents in jail but them in the jail with parent and what about the others?
     
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    How about a couple examples of Trump violating the constitution to save capitalism? I think you will see I and others have been critical of both parties and I was no fan of either Bush.
     
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    Of course there are good and bad ones. Do I have to repeat myself, the bad ones are those that show an abuse of power and go beyond the power of a president. I'll give you two examples. ObamaCare was the law of the land, the GOP was not allowed to make changes before it was passed, but when certain provisions were about to take hold that would cause the DNC base to get upset Obama used an EO to change it. EO's are not suppose to create or change law. #2. Even Obama said he didn't have the power to use an EO for DACA, but he did anyway, and got away with it.
     
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    If you actually have a quote where Obama said he didn't have the power to use an EO to change DACA please post it. And if you actually believe that how do you justify Trump using an EO to change DACA.
     
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    A couple? I'll give you 5 possible examples of Republicans' violations and Trump's.

    How about Republicans questioning and objecting to raising the debt ceiling and thereby threatening to default on debts..... TWICE?

    How about when Trump hired his family and continued to run his businesses from the WH?

    How about Republicans wanting to establish a clear preference for a particular religion by putting bible quotes in federal buildings?

    Then there is their deeds that damage the "general welfare" by creating different levels of education quality distributed on the basis of the ability to pay for it?

    Then there is the Trump AND Republican violations of the spirit of the Constitution, whereby they reject and actively prevent the normal, traditional debate, cooperation, negotiation, compromise, and respect for checks and balances as they work to establish one-party dictatorship, which is exactly what it is when one party rules and excludes the other.
     
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  9. Tim15856

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    Don't see where Trump violated the constitution in any of that, even if it's all true.
     
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    That's crazy.. Why tell such a lie?

    Currently little kids are being used as pawns while the adults figure out what to do. That makes Trump a weakling.
     
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    "That makes Trump" bound by the same immigration law as his predecessor, Barack Obama. Obama didn't change immigration law, he simply directed enforcement officials to ignore it. Trump isn't as free wheeling with US immigration law, he plans to do things "by the book". How you can characterize obstructionist (D) congress ... "the adults" who have refused more proposed reform llegislation than I care to recall, is an absolute mystery. Trump and Sessions are fulfilling their lawful obligations. (D) congress is shirking theirs.
     

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