Why Sweden’s feminists are completely insane

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  1. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Post modernists don't care about abuses in other parts of the world because that's not their concern. They are very goal oriented, there is no political capital in attacking Uganda for literal slavery, Iran for executing gays, etc.

    It doesn't undermine the domestic social order. Their goals are just a means to their end, they have no real values. If it advances their power, they will support it. If not they will be indifferent.
     
  2. Glücksritter

    Glücksritter Well-Known Member

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    This US redneck is too stupid to find Malmö on a map and is really so stupid to nullify the argument "thats not the capital", because so proud he knows a capital of a European country, but so proud to lesson other people with fabricated numbers. Sweden's population is meanwhile even 10 million people, even to be a google-smartass you are simply too dumb.

    You are a uneducated redneck, but you feel entitled to define feminism and take the label from some of the most influencial feminist writers or activists like Andrea Dworkin, Simone de Beauvior or countless others? That's bleeping stupid, you could also start a childish discussion stating that communism means free market and libertarianism and every communist from Marx to Lenin wasnt a communist after all if he contradicted.

    Its highly controverted amongst different kinds of feminists if you as a male are allowed after all to call yourself feminist or if its a kind of agression against women. A position between the extremes you can find here although you wont read it:

    https://medium.com/@alicengrey/i-m-suspicious-of-male-feminists-and-you-should-be-too-441055a2e614

    Well yes, of course, when you look further into her articles you will reply she isnt a feminist, the feminist journals which publish her writings arent feminists and the feminists who celebrate her works arent feminists. You could also try to define an elefant as a pig and every elefant who does not fit to a pig is not an elefant. Thats trolling. Simple as that.

    Yes, of course female teachers are the ones who addresses inequality in the educational system to the disadvantage of boys too. Simply because feminism was successful enough to criminalize and stigmatize males opposing to any kind of injustices. They are INCELS, MGTOWS, NAZIS and so on. And yes, now you can go and XXXX yourself.
     
  3. Glücksritter

    Glücksritter Well-Known Member

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    This is what the mayor of Malmö had to say, when Jews are attacked on the streets:

    “I would wish for the Jewish community to denounce Israeli violations against the civilian population in Gaza. Instead it decides to hold a [pro-Israeli] demonstration in the Grand Square [of Malmö], which could send the wrong signals,” he stated.

    http://www.aljazeerah.info/News/201...Ilmar Reepalu Denounces Zionism As Racism.htm

    Encouragement for any Arab young man to continue attacks ... the mayor delivers the justification afterwards.
     
  4. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    You goofed; l've been to Malmö. Have you been to the U.S. where I was born, or Canada where I was naturalized?
    It just turned 10m in Jusnuary 2017 according to the government of Sweden you hate.


    I've read both and I'm not impresssed.
    Babbling and incoherent.
    I don't care what some people, women or men, think about my self-identifying as a person who believes in equal rights for women.
    I spent three decades teaching high school students and adults. I worked with a lot of female teachers who were as dedicated to helping males as they were females.
    You don't seem prepared to adjust to a world where women have an equal say.
     
  5. Soupnazi

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    Wrong.

    You already lost and lost BAD.

    Women are not feminists unless they CHOOSE to be a feminist and most do not.

    Those are facts and your accusations are dishonest and false.

    What I stated is accurate and you cannot refute it. That includes the pay gap which is PROVEN myth.

    You are absolutely incapable of refuting those facts.
     
  7. Glücksritter

    Glücksritter Well-Known Member

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    So what exactly was your moronic comment all about that it isnt the capital, if you now declare to know exactly that Malmö is indeed one of the biggest Swesih cities?





    So, in other words you wanted to play the big Zampano by using google, but you are simply too dumb even for that. Wanted to embarrass me by refusing my comment with more actual data but simply unable to use the actual data. Epic fail! ​


    It does not care if you are impressed or not, what cares is that they are both two influential feminists and its rather ridiculous to state that they are not feminists.

    It's neither babbling nor incoherent, its just a demonstration how silly it is to entitle oneself do redefine political terms randomly.

    And no one cares whose influential feminists you take their label as feminists off. As said above you can also refuse Marx or Lenin to be called Marxists, on one cares.

    Look, maybe its too complicated for you to read more than a single line, but in this context it was clear that I was not making fun of the fact that many female teacher are the ones who tries to challenge a gender gap in education. What was following afterwards was my explanation which you obviously did not understand. Of course only women can challenge unjust treatment of boys as feminism successfully deligitimated any male voice on that.
     
  8. LangleyMan

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    Women are feminists because they believe they're equal.
    See kitty above.
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    I just did.
     
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    Belief in equality does not make one a feminist.

    One is only a feminist if one claims to be one and most do not.

    Feminism is no longer about equality as women have equality.

    Kitty is fake meme and your accusation is dishonest and false.

    No you failed to challenge the fact that there is no pay gap. You cited tables showing an EARNINGS gap which is not the same thing. The earnings gap is due to personal choice.

    Learn the difference.
     
  10. LangleyMan

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    You goofed. Live with it.
    Rant, rant, rant. Very few people even know who Andrea Dworkin and Simone de Beauvior were. Dworkin died ten years ago and de Beauvoir died more than thirty years ago.
    Now, you're babbling.
    You're clueless. Many years ago as a young teacher I led the fight in my school district, over the objection of some women, to get two years of unpaid leave for new mothers in our teachers' association (we didn't have a union in these days) "understanding" with the school district. We convinced the district that it would cost them nothing and be a way they could recruit the best quality women teachers.

    Years later in my district, a group of mostly women elementary teachers got together and pressured the school district to establish programs and policies to improve the education outcomes for boys. One of their recommendations was to recruit more male elementary teachers.

    Most women I know welcome the vocal support of men and I welcome their support on men's issues.
     
  11. LangleyMan

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    Yes, it does.
    An absurd claim.
    That the burden of childcare falls to women is part of the inequality of society.
    Get your head out of your rear.
     
  12. Glücksritter

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    Much more than you and there are more people talking about them thirty years after your death than you. My patience to further discuss with a megalomaniac who thinks of himself as the most important feminists in the world entitled to redefine the term taking away the label anyony at will, is limited. If it helps you to think you are such significant go on with your shitty little life imagine it to be of such significance for humankind.

    Even if you think yourself of such significance it is obvious you are trolling here. Even if you were once seen by history as the most important feminist of the last 1000 years, you would be aware of the fact that right now there is an existing political movement you can define as feminism not fitting to your redefinition of that term. You are simply trolling here.
     
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    No it does not.

    Women have agency and the ability to choose which you seek to deny them which is true misogyny. If a woman refuses to identify as a feminist then those women are not feminism. Most women do not identify as feminist.

    Equality has noting to do with modern third wave feminism period and I stated no absurd claim. It is simple fact that women are equal. You cannot name one right men have which women do not.

    The burden of child care does not fall to women it is voluntarily assumed by women.

    Once again facts it is you needing to learn a few things.
     
  14. LangleyMan

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    Women are systematically discriminated against in society. Women don't have the right to control their own bodies.
    Because men all too often don't assume responsibility for looking after their children. I saw that as a teacher.
    You'd be doing well if you were half as smart as you think you are.
     
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    Homosexuals are mentally ill - so what do you except?
     
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    That's written in the Shariah or just your personal supporting view ?
     
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    You do realize that such blatant racism like this just makes your party look more hypocritical and is one of the main reasons the Democrats are getting slaughtered at every level of government ..... right?
     
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    This has been debunked sooooo many times now, nobody believes this nonsense anymore.

    You cannot just compared mass groups like that, it makes literally zero sense.

    The studies have shown that it is about 94-96% of what men make in similar positions and situations. This is a losing argument.
     
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    Losing arguments, heck men have zero choice when it comes to what happens to parts of their body. They give up their sperm and then lose all abilty to make a decision.

    It has also been proven that women have it MUCH better in court, in social services and basically any other area where it is a subjective decision.

    Feminists have gone WAY too far, thankfully they are being pushed back. We want equality, not this nonsense where women get to call men evil and act like princesses.

    Just more Toxic Femininity with demands that people think like they do, acting the victim while asking not to be a victim and blatant whining over things that make zero sense. So sad to watch but I am happy that it is being laughed at as a whole.
     
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    If I could I would love to make them slaughtered! If it's in my power, just tell me what to do.

    But what do you mean with racism? Everytime I mention the savagery in Malmö where Jews are hunted through the streets and the muslim perpetrators are backed by the ruling Social Democrats, some idiot who wants to play down the incident tells me that Malmö is just an unimportant city while in fact its the third largest city in Sweden.

    So to translate that, if you were pointing out savagery and Jew hunts in Chicago by its muslim population and some smartass from Europe would "lesson" you, that Chicago isnt even the capital, what would you think of that smartass? That he would be rather stupid, right? So thats my comment about Langley Man.
     
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    But women less often have those "similar positions and situations" because of the imbalance in family life. The numbers I presented show the net impact of all factors facing women.
     
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    You Go, Girls!

    Don't let guys, "**** with tradition"!

    Not while Swedish women are around!
     
  23. LangleyMan

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    Good grief. No one is forcing us to have sex or have a baby.
    Child custody cases favor mothers, but I think your "any other area..." claim is going too far.
    People who want equality for women have not "gone WAY too far" in general, but I would agree that men are treated unfairly in some areas.
    Some feminists have been, as you say, "toxic," but most women seeking equality are make reasonable demands. I reject your characterization of women as "whining" and your reaction suggests at least you aren't laughing.
     
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    No but people are forcing men to pay for a baby they don't want. If a woman wants to get rid of their baby it is 100% their choice and they can say "oh, it was just a mistake!". Men have no such luxery, if you have sex with someone you completely lose the ability to choose if you want a baby or not, which is the opposite of women.

    Further more, you have to pay for this child and life that you do not want. Women have it MUCH better and that is simply a fact. Let's not forget that men are demonized in every way in the courts and if you don't pay up, you simply go to jail. It is the craziest BS you can ever imagine and thankfully feminism went too far and people are starting to notice this.

    Yes, people who want EQUALITY for women have "gone WAY too far". They no longer want equality, they want the benefits women see now over men as well as to be equal in the areas where men currently benefit over women. Men and women are different, there are pros and cons to each. Equality should be the goal, not overly politicized nonsense like the so called wage gap which has been disproven time and time again.

    There is a huge movement against third wave feminism now and they are starting to look like the bad guys. Modern feminism does not want equality, they want to "get back" at the so called patriarchy and many even admit they want to bring about a matriarchy.

    I am completely about equality, but the system is not equal at all. The more people push these ideals the more feminism loses steam.

    Feminist support is AT THE LOWEST LEVEL IT HAS BEEN IN HALF A CENTURY.

    And I am glad you reject "whining", my exact point is that is a stereotype about women and it is stupid to paint all women the same.

    This is EXACTLY the same as the so called ridiculous idea of "Toxic Masculinity" who have the plan to get rid of anything they see as too masculine or so called "evil". Both are stupid stereotypes that have no place in our society. Glad we agree.

    Just like to point out, over 80% of all violent crime is from single parent households without a father. Not having a masculine presence in a man's life is HORRIBLE and has disastrous consequences.
     
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    I certainly don't support bad behavior by Muslim males and think it and they should be countered and suppressed. Your mischaracterization of Sweden is absurd and is only effective propaganda with people who haven't been there.
     

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